First Review British Forces

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 07:29 AMEsxile

Playing Brit will be hard, oh yes... since you'll need people to play Axis!

Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2015, 23:27 PMThe_rEd_bEar

I never said that, quote my comment of me saying that and I'll be more than happy to retract my comment
let alone crying about how a tank destroyers destroying tanks

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 00:46 AMdasheepeh

you would complain about croc if it was axis, guaranteed

I was always a British player in the original Company of Heroes. I’ve got the reactions of a drunk sloth..

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 07:16 AMKatitof

Firefly does not have 60 sight range, panther can just rush it as its much faster and circle strafe it as it turns its turret like it was a heavy.

Also, one of most effective allied AT guns being actually effective? Such imbalance! Only Axis can have panther penetration level tanks that aren't made of cardboard and tissue paper.

Jump back to quoted post24 Aug 2015, 22:05 PMClassyDavid

Compared to the Pak 43, 17pdr costs fuel 75(!) for a immobile emplacement and 400 MP. Another thing is that is has pay through Sabot Rounds to shot through shot blockers unlike the Pak 43. Pak 43 also has super turbo stun everything round. At least it does have flares to reveal the area. I remember so many OST and OKW players raging that my 17 pdr emplacement was penetrating and destroying their Tigers and Panthers. I guess only Axis can have the best anti-tank weapons

I think USF players will be crying over Firefly more than the 17pdr emplacement considering it does 240 damage, more armor (for what its worth with Allies), as mobile, increased damage at Vet 3, and HP compared to the Jackson. Same range too for only 30 more fuel. Has a 9 second reload it seems however. So it looks like Jackson will be better against medium tanks than heavy tanks but can still use HVAP rounds for increased damage and penetration.

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 16:19 PMvietnamabc

So, Sim city 2.0 or mega blob 2.0 now?

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 16:19 PMvietnamabc

So, Sim city 2.0 or mega blob 2.0 now?

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 08:57 AMCardboard Tank

Amnesia? Your comment was moderated and deleted.

Last time I checked the Panther was supposed to be a tank destroyer also. And from what I gather a more expensive one.

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 16:19 PMvietnamabc

So, Sim city 2.0 or mega blob 2.0 now?

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 12:45 PMAlexzandvar

The Panther's turret turns like it's a heavy tank.

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 16:37 PMAustralian Magic

This is gold.

Panther's turret is almost twice faster than Tiger's or IS's and over 2 times fater than KT's, while it's almost same for Jackson, Pz4 and other mediums.

And it's faster than Wolverine's turret.


At vet 3 only T34/85, Sherman and Pz4 have noticeable faster turret.

Really gold.

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 17:01 PMAlexzandvar

It's slower than a medium tanks turret speed and slightly faster than the heaviest tanks turret traverse speed. This is probably because it occupies a space in between heavy and medium tank due it's unique nature of high cost and armor.

It gets 40% turret rotation at vet 2 to compensate for that, compared to the 35% most tanks get. The IS2 also get's 50% more turret rotation at vet 2 giving it almost exactly the same traverse speed as the Panther.

I don't know why your knit picking this, because the reason why the Fire Fly beats a Panther 1 for 1 is they cost the same and the Fire Fly is a dedicated TD while the Panther is a tank hunter.

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 17:43 PMAustralian Magic

Are you mad?

Mediums traverse is 35.
Panther's is 33.
Heavies is 19.

Vet 2 IS2 has almost same traverse like Panther? I can't extract because I don't have the tools on this computer.

Explain me, how 28 of IS is almost the same as 46 of Panther. I'm listening.

Without vet it's faster almost twice than all heavies (19 vs 33).
It's faster than Wolverine's.
It's slower than medium only by 2 but with vet it has almost the fastest traverse in game.

So, explain me, how Panther's turret is slow cause I cannot see this.

Panther can circle FF without any problems. FF turret is worse than Tiger's I belive or similar at most.

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 18:08 PMAlexzandvar

28 is pretty close to 33, I never specified if the Panther was vetted or not.

I remember for a fact the FF cannot be circle strafed, especially if you are reversing away from the enemy tank. Also Panthers don't exactly have wonderful turn speed so it's not like you will be pulling ultra tight turns around it.

Again, the FF win's in a 1 on 1 because they cost the same and the FF is a dedicated AT vehicle. The Panther is not, although it's usefulness against enemy infantry is limited.

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 18:08 PMAlexzandvar

Were did you find those stats?



28 is pretty close to 33, I never specified if the Panther was vetted or not.



I remember for a fact the FF cannot be circle strafed, especially if you are reversing away from the enemy tank. Also Panthers don't exactly have wonderful turn speed so it's not like you will be pulling ultra tight turns around it.

Again, the FF win's in a 1 on 1 because they cost the same and the FF is a dedicated AT vehicle. The Panther is not, although it's usefulness against enemy infantry is limited.

This is pretty off topic, imo.

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2015, 18:47 PMNachtmahr667

Just wondering: What's the fundamental difference between a Firefly and a Comet? Judging from what I've seen, they seem to be pretty much the same kind of unit, namely a turreted TD...