The SturmTiger

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2015, 03:47 AMAlexzandvar

It has worse armor than the basic OKW PIV. (220) The lowest armor of any heavy tank in the game.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2015, 04:01 AMQueenRatchet123

Nice cherry picking. Im not wasting my time with you.

1 LeiG counters blobs easily, last week Ive come up against duel LeiG's and jesus christ that just shuts down anything.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2015, 04:34 AMRobbie_Rotten

Can someone explain why this unit is a problem now when it wasn't beforehand? (Even though it was buffed slightly it wasn't that buffed?)

Did it become a call in and suddenly people just wanted everything to do with it?

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2015, 04:34 AMRobbie_Rotten

Can someone explain why this unit is a problem now when it wasn't beforehand? (Even though it was buffed slightly it wasn't that buffed?)

Did it become a call in and suddenly people just wanted everything to do with it?

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2015, 04:38 AMCookiezNcreem

Because before the shell would explode if it would hit twigs,and its aoe was much worse. especially vs vehicles.

now it vaporizes everything that grazes the AOE and can shoot through any shotblocker,with +5 range on top of that so you can shoot from where most units cant react if you have spotters

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2015, 04:42 AMRobbie_Rotten

I didn't realize the shot blockers was a new thing. And I do remember the shell never quite hitting its target beforehand.

Makes sense.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2015, 05:43 AMAustralian Magic

Sometimes Im amazed how people defending Wipetiger are against B4 or ML20, while Stuka zu fuss wiping whole defensive line without veterancy is ok.


Wanna shoot from FoG? Ok, but reduce armor and health to the level of KV1,since it is very good tank

Reason for HP and armor of ST is to move close, take bullets, fire and reverse. So no need for armor nor HP if shooting from FoG.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2015, 05:47 AMdaspoulos

You should really learn your stats if you are to speak. Kv1 has more armor than a sturmtiger

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2015, 05:50 AMAustralian Magic

And I fix it before your post. If Im not misteaken, vetted ST has better armor, tho Im mobile so cannot check it.
Still, ST has a lot more HP.

Jump back to quoted post13 Aug 2015, 15:34 PMCelticsREP

Currently the Sturmtiger is essentially a mobile B4 that does alot more damage, this unit is in my opinion a new balance issue.

This unit can be acquired as early as the 15 minute mark, it requires no teching to a tier at all and only costs 560mp and 160 fuel. Its main cannon shot does ridiculous damage and if Im not mistaken will 1 shot anything everytime. It also soaks damage like it's going out of fashion.

So lets talk counters. Relic has extended the fuel requirement for tier 4 as the USF to 120fuel, so getting a tank out at the same time is very hard to do, you have a Jackson at the best, good luck trying to take the Sturmtiger down too a low health value due to Volk support.

AT guns are the worst counter as they provide free XP to the Sturmtiger, static positions just get murdered with ease.

This unit just creates a situation where you cannot move out of the map due to its sheer presence, you lose the map as 4 Volks with shreks just cruize around with the Sturmtiger and maybe a Luchs or some MG's wiping vet 3 Rifle after vet 3 Rifle thus bleeding you out.

Thoughts?

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2015, 06:39 AMIron Emperor

I can understand your points, why you think the Sturmtiger is OP. I'd consider it strong to very strong. For me it doesn't have the same striking force as a M5 Quad which I consider OP. Probably change the shooting through objects will make it more balanced, since you can blasted away without even noticing the Sturmkitty. Also it's in a kinda crappy commander, since the HEAT shells have a strange shooting (slow/inaccurate), almost on-one uses the panzercommander upgrade (used it yesterday and the arty from the commander is nice for 120 ammo). The rest you almost never use, since the critical repair takes 15 seconds if I'm not wrong.

Jump back to quoted post13 Aug 2015, 16:32 PMmaskedmonkey2

I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the thought process of taking away precision shot from the b4 due to it's wiping potential, then buffing a unit who's entire schtick is wiping.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2015, 05:56 AMAlexzandvar

The ISU has 1040 health, has 70 range, and can 1 shot wipe squads with a reload of 7-11 seconds. In the time it takes a Sturmtiger to reload an ISU can kill 5 squads on average. While shooting from the fog of war.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2015, 08:16 AMAustralian Magic

ISU does not wipe in every single shot.

ISU is AI or AT

ISU won't wipe entire army in 1 click.

ISU does not shoot through shot blockers (there is expensive ability which is not effective).

After first shot, you know where it is so you can easily avoid it with infantry.