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Soviet Support weapons/Arty spam now stronger than ever

25 Jul 2015, 03:12 AM
#1
avatar of SuperJew

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I was so mad I didn't bother to save the replay. Map was River Crossing 2v2.

Basically my opponent spammed about or 5 AT guns, 3 MG's, a halftrack and some conscripts to reinforce, he made at least 2 katyusha's and an ML20, and his partner had an IS2 holding the rear and his own weapons and with his muni's he dropped incendiary rounds on us.

And I had 3 grens, 2 Pgrens, early on I had 2 mortars to take out his mg and at guns but they got killed by his katyusha's mid round. 2 stugs, a pio and a tiger and a halftrack for reinforcing as well as a field med bunker.

The MG's would insta pin my infantry movements and force them to retreat now that the MG has 2x the suppression it did before. The Mortars were hardcountered by the katyushas and I could never keep them crewed. THe ML20 at one point destroyed my base building, as well as every other building I had in my base. This was the first time I'd had all my base buildings destroyed in a LOOOONG time so I know it has something entirely to do with the patch.

Basically he just arty spammed us to death. If we sent a tank to kill his arty he had a tank anda couple at guns and mg to make sure I could not pass.My infantry couldn't move up, my tanks couldn't move up. Whatever I decrewed was recrewed by the Halftrack.

ML20 base raped us as it now fires 8 rounds as opposed to 6, at one point after I had retreated a single ML20 round had killed all 3 squads of grens after retreating.

This was already an annoying turtling strategy BEFORE the patch. Now it's OP as ever. Obviously I'm going to have to accomodate this soviet support weapons strategy perhaps through my commanders since I've now been beaten by it 2x since the patch. Joint Ops and make the Arty gun? He still would have probably decrewed it and destroyed it several times considering he had 3 artillery pieces. Spam stuka dive bombs from CAS? I need some ideas. To me since this new patch, the game is genuinely not fun anymore. I don't stand a chance against a turtling soviet anymore.
25 Jul 2015, 16:56 PM
#2
avatar of kamk
Donator 11

Posts: 764

I assume you mean "Crossing in the Woods"
(http://www.coh2.org/file/2877/relic00682.jpg)

If you haven't played another game yet, you still may find the replay under:
C:\Users\user\Documents\my games\company of heroes 2\playback
called: temp.rec

Did you play random, or in an AT? With the latter there's plenty of solutions, with randoms it becomes a bit harder.
Nevertheless i kinda get the feeling nobody bothered to get a Stuka, and just went for the common T3 teching, which made those support weapons more of a threat than they should be. If you're in earlier need of a decent counter, then try the ISG, it excels on maps with direct line of fire (like Crossings).
As Ostheer you got the obvious counters. Anything with Stuka bombs, AT strafes, heavy offmap arty, or just get a lefh yourself.

P.S.: ML20 went from 4 to 8 shots, but has no precision strike anymore.

Anyways, demo would help.
25 Jul 2015, 17:58 PM
#3
avatar of Soheil

Posts: 658

mortar HT vs 5AT ,3mg...
26 Jul 2015, 04:53 AM
#4
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Jaegar Armour doctrine has the elefant, outranges AT guns and can deal to the IS-2 and a recon + stuka dive bomb great for killing howitzers
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