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WHEN they will nerf Jagpanzer

17 Jun 2015, 14:53 PM
#41
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Ah yes you ofcourse now what I experience during gameplay. It bounces shermans, without a doubt

No it doesn't, M4A3 Sherman have 160/80 armor and Jagdpanzer IV have 200/185/170 penetration (150% with vet5 ability), it is always 100% chance to penetrate M4A3 from any distance.
17 Jun 2015, 14:54 PM
#42
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Ah yes you ofcourse now what I experience during gameplay. It bounces shermans, without a doubt



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17 Jun 2015, 15:16 PM
#43
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We can see from the beginning HIS CHEAT BONUS VISION after some veterancy ...

When they will nerf it ?

Oh cheat things make some diversity beetween armys and it's pretty fun, I personnaly enjoy it ! :snfPeter:

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17 Jun 2015, 15:17 PM
#44
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 14:53 PMnewvan

No it doesn't, M4A3 Sherman have 160/80 armor and Jagdpanzer IV have 200/185/170 penetration (150% with vet5 ability), it is always 100% chance to penetrate M4A3 from any distance.


I think he's talking about the Easy Eight Sherman. The E8 has 200 armor.
17 Jun 2015, 15:23 PM
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Every Adult is a Kid, he learned the respect from his education. :S

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17 Jun 2015, 15:25 PM
#46
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I think he's talking about the Easy Eight Sherman. The E8 has 200 armor.

215/95, it's 93%/86%/79% - quite good chances to penetrate, some AT could only dream about such chances, it isn't even close to constant bounces. For special shot from invis it's 100%.
17 Jun 2015, 16:07 PM
#47
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Never once have I had a pro use a jagdpanzer4 against me. Out of the 150+ games I've played as soviets maybe 10 of them have used jagdpanzer4. Never had a problem with any. So atm I don't think its OP.
17 Jun 2015, 16:14 PM
#48
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Never once have I had a pro use a jagdpanzer4 against me. Out of the 150+ games I've played as soviets maybe 10 of them have used jagdpanzer4. Never had a problem with any. So atm I don't think its OP.

Its not Op, but the vet is really strong indeed, and it excels against the IS-2 specifically, since it can kite it to death if well microed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JyTzWHqsII
This is yours truly vs a (rusty) Cataclaw with extensive JPIV usage, only finally managed to kill the damn things when they hit my mines....
17 Jun 2015, 16:19 PM
#49
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Hmmm, its on the level of jackson AP rounds. Nerf those too please. How japgdpanzer camo could work is that it will re-camo when its in the FOW or not in direct line of sight by an enemy tank shooting at it. Or simply is not in combat. Shouldn't be able to re-camo whil engaging another unit.
17 Jun 2015, 16:22 PM
#50
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Ye, the recloak is silly. Apart from that its fine.
Also, Kwen! If you call me out, dont bugger off at the first sign of trouble, answer on steam! ;)
17 Jun 2015, 16:26 PM
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Ye, the recloak is silly. Apart from that its fine.
Also, Kwen! If you call me out, dont bugger off at the first sign of trouble, answer on steam! ;)


life would be alot easier if you just had the same username across all sites...

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17 Jun 2015, 16:27 PM
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Its fine dude, but not everyone is a shittalker, and its not generally the best idea to always assume otherwise. See you ingame man.
17 Jun 2015, 16:37 PM
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17 Jun 2015, 16:42 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 10:39 AMKatitof

What...
Its much better then SU-85 and people say SU-85 is fine.

Unreliable is last thing that matches JP4 description.


The SU-85 has better penetration and ROF, also has higher gun traverse and acceleration

~the more you know~
17 Jun 2015, 16:45 PM
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The SU-85 has better penetration and ROF, also has higher gun traverse and acceleration

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17 Jun 2015, 16:46 PM
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The SU-85 has better penetration and ROF, also has higher gun traverse and acceleration

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17 Jun 2015, 16:46 PM
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The SU-85 has better penetration and ROF, also has higher gun traverse and acceleration

~the more you know~

cheaper too, better vision.

Jagdpanzer advantages: better vet, armor.
17 Jun 2015, 16:50 PM
#58
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The SU-85 has better penetration and ROF, also has higher gun traverse and acceleration

~the more you know~


SU-85 fights tanks that actually have armor and number of units it can bounce of is greater then two.
Gun traverse means shit when you are not using AT gun or turreted tank.
Neither of them is a chasing or escaping unit, so acceleration means nothing.

Meanwhile, JP4 faces much weaker at and have incomparably greater armor and scaling then SU-85.

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17 Jun 2015, 16:51 PM
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cheaper too, .

SU-85 = 50 fuel + 120 X2

jp4 = 40 fuel + 135

try again
17 Jun 2015, 16:53 PM
#60
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SU-85 = 50 fuel + 120 X2

jp4 = 40 fuel + 135

try again

You're anal enough to include teching costs, but you diregard fuel income penalty. Fail.
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