The T 34 problem

Jump back to quoted post8 Jun 2013, 10:20 AMNullist

If I have 2 Grens on site (which I usually do, since I play with many Grens, almost always in pairs), one of the two will still suffer this fate. If I have a P4 on premisis for example, innaddition to my 2 Grens, one Hren will still suffer this fate, because I absolutely MUST get that Faust off, pre-emptively, because I absolutely do not want a Ram to occur.

Considering my own play, I think I need to atleast try more Paks, to help mitigate T34s at a longer range and without eithrr my grens or P4s being vulnerablrpe the the t34s (frankly) excellent anti-infantry and my P4 to the Ram.

I hope this example h3lps demomstrate that I am aware of counters, and am not talking about a 1Gren vs T34 situation in a vacuu,.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2013, 20:09 PMCrells

i think that is too far Talarfon, essentially wrecking your own tank for just engine damage and temp damage. seems like a bad trade and active abilities shouldnt hurt you, maybe just immobalise on the t34

Jump back to quoted post8 Jun 2013, 13:25 PMNullist

@Nanonaps: Yes, except that PIV and Panther are terrible vs infantry. T34s currently eat infantry alive in comparison.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jun 2013, 13:37 PMStrummingbird

http://coh-moderncombat.com/CoH2Stats/Axis/Weapons/panzer_4_75mm_mp.html

http://coh-moderncombat.com/CoH2Stats/Soviets/Weapons/t34_kv1_m1940_f-34_76mm__mp.html

The Panzer IV and T-34's gun are identical in all respects except in penetration, where the P4 has the advantage.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jun 2013, 14:03 PMtalarfon

so a free ability which YOU choose when to activate should give you an edge in almost any situation?!

Personally I have never used ram, i don't think its crazy OP but it's just cheap, it's not fun to play against, that's my main issue with it.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jun 2013, 14:45 PMCrells

Bottom line, RAM has counters, if you don't try to learn them and use them you should loose, panthers have counters, if you don't learn them /use them you should loose.


@talafron, YES and ability you choose to use SHOULD HELP YOU, grenades help, the healing vet 1 ability helps, placing mines (though not technically an ability) helps, firing your panzerwerfer into the fog of war helps.

Why on earth should an ability you need to activate NOT help you???


P.S. i don't think anyone here would mind if you lached on a 50 munis or what ever cost to it.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jun 2013, 07:58 AMLachlanMann

Ram is broken. I don't understand how people can even be defending it.

"No AT blah blah" Go to T2 and build a Zis. At the stage it's in now, you don't even have to build anything from T2. Just build the T2 building, Go to T3, and spam T-34. Oh, a Panzer 4? Ram the shit out of it.

You literally do not have to build anything other than Conscripts, Snipers, Guard's and T34's, and you can counter everything.

It's broken, and it needs fixing ASAP. And while they're at it, could they make the scout car useful? And why not give Pgrens the option for MP44's? If COnscripts can get PSK's, Germans should have an option for MP44's

Jump back to quoted post9 Jun 2013, 09:39 AMNullist

NanoNaps, your bias is showing quite clearly.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jun 2013, 09:52 AMNanoNaps

Edit: Why doesn't any german only player just try to fight german armor without ram for a few games, just do it. Then come back.