Relic, you gonna fix 120mm, or not?

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2015, 17:11 PMdaspoulos

If you people literally want riflenades to do like 40 damage and kill no man at all (because thats the sentiment I'm getting here) then they are not worth 30 munitions at all. To make up for your lack of micro cost should be dropped to 15 munitions if they will onlky be able to kill 1 man max. 30 munitions for 20-25 mp bleed is shit and will make this ability worthless.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2015, 17:26 PMKatitof

While that certainly wouldn't happen, I wouldn't mind. You would still have a dangerous long range tool you could use without leaving safety of the cover and soften up weapon teams.

Its not like molos kill much stuff in comparison.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2015, 08:04 AMAustralian Magic

Double standards detected.

So, you count teching costs only when it's in your favour?
If you are counting it for KT, for example, count it for all units. And if you do, you will see that Katy is more expensive.

Yes it takes extra shot what makes huge difference, especially when we talking about slow firing zis.

Oh and this unit cost 50 fuel instead of 70.

Nerf precision strike called rifle nade then?

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2015, 17:48 PMAlexzandvar

Not counting teching costs, at all here. The Stuka with OKW's fuel penalty is 150 fuel which is more than Soviet T4. The 120 doesn't require teching at all, and it's role is different to that of the Stuka's.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2015, 17:53 PMAustralian Magic

That's the point, your are counting tech cost only when it suits you.

Forgot about T1/2 I guess..

So, with your logic it's 40+100 vs 50+120+85. Even you count your pointless fuel, Katy is still more expensive.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2015, 18:06 PMAlexzandvar

I wouldn't call the core of OKW's design "pointless" but I specifically mentioned that if you don't count teching costs it's the most expensive one in the game game.

If you make a Schwer (which you will always do as OKW), then your spending about the same fuel as a Soviet player is.

Free first tier + 120 for the Schwer.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2015, 18:17 PMAustralian Magic

That's the point! If you dont count - because counting would make Katy more expensive, and you what to show Stuka as most expensive but on the other hand you are saying that KT costs pudding load of fuel with all tech because it suits you more in that case.

Always make a Schwerer? That's new...

And what Schwerer has to do with Stuka?

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2015, 18:23 PMAlexzandvar

You need the Schwer to lock down sectors/cut offs because of OKW's reduced map presence, you can delay making one sure but you normally always want to eventually make one.

The KT without teching costs is still the second most expensive tank in the game at 393 fuel, with the Jadgtiger coming in at 439.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2015, 18:29 PMAustralian Magic

Then you should try T1+T2 (T2+T3) with Jadgpanzer and Fusiliers, Jaegers or Falchs.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2015, 17:29 PMdaspoulos

Over a rear ech rifle nade for 15 munitions or a lolotov. I'd take the molotov. Being able to crit and deny cover is much more useful than some garbage that gets dodged anyway by people who micro their squads. But woe is the super gimped allies. If you're going to make the rifle nade trash give grenadiers an actual grenade. Hurrr

Jump back to quoted post3 May 2015, 07:27 AMNEVEC

Less than 10% of posts in this thread is about 120mm.

Jump back to quoted post3 May 2015, 07:27 AMNEVEC

Less than 10% of posts in this thread is about 120mm.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2015, 19:53 PMPorygon

Not really interested at this pile of shit again.

However,

Someone said rolling 521.5 kg around is easy (assume in grassland / snow / muddy place) and he got a Physics Master degree? God, how much did you pay for that piece of paper?

LOL

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2015, 18:38 PMGdot

Im surpised to see this go 11 pages. I mean come on, if you don't think 120 is ridiculous right now then please pass the shit you are smoking this way.

Jump back to quoted post3 May 2015, 12:42 PMParty_of_Lenin

I mean nobody at Relic gives a shit about Wehrmacht anyway ... it's all about Allies against OKW. Balance? Who needs that shit

Jump back to quoted post3 May 2015, 12:56 PMSpearhead

When you complain about getting pounded by allied artillery as OKW, don't forget, nobody forced you to build your damn buildings outside of your base.