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Why is the IS2 accuracy so bad?

17 Apr 2015, 16:49 PM
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Ive noticed that the IS2 (while having a lot of armor and HP) It tends to have a ridiculous amount of scatter and poor accuracy. Does anyone else think this is a little over the top?
17 Apr 2015, 16:54 PM
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IS-2 traded accuracy for better AT ability when relic made changes to it, it used to have hard time countering enemy armor, but it usually hit enemy infantry with every shot, so it was changed, and buffed to more of a AT role
17 Apr 2015, 16:59 PM
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The RoF also makes it look more inaccurate than it actually is.
17 Apr 2015, 18:53 PM
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The RoF also makes it look more inaccurate than it actually is.


This. And in my experience, use attack ground on infantry.
17 Apr 2015, 18:56 PM
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The IS-2 has less accuracy and less firepower againts infantry is because it has superior anti tank performance to the tiger I.


Tiger 1 has more firepower,

IS-2 has more durability

That's basically how it goes right now.
17 Apr 2015, 18:57 PM
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I don't know, I keep getting my squads wiped from this tank.
17 Apr 2015, 18:58 PM
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It has higher AoE than the Tiger and only slightly more scatter. The reason it feels like it's less accurate is because it has a lower ROF.
17 Apr 2015, 18:58 PM
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17 Apr 2015, 19:00 PM
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I find the IS-2 vs Tiger engagement comes down to RNG more than anything else so I think the Tiger has a much better trade off with it's better anti infantry.

At the same time though, Anti infantry and squad wipe poential more than anything comes down to Squads frustratingly clumping.
17 Apr 2015, 19:01 PM
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My IS-2 regulary wipes squads, it's just that it has a very slow and noticeable rate of fire, so when it misses it feels like it takes ages to fire again.

17 Apr 2015, 19:04 PM
#11
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Dont really need the maingun to hit infantry. the Dshk topgunner is all you need = killing the most. Seems to be sniping models + planes left and right...

Its really cheap (it should cost more imo since you dont need tech) for what it does IMO. And you can just callin as many u like ofc. ;D
17 Apr 2015, 19:14 PM
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I find the IS-2 vs Tiger engagement comes down to RNG more than anything else so I think the Tiger has a much better trade off with it's better anti infantry.

At the same time though, Anti infantry and squad wipe poential more than anything comes down to Squads frustratingly clumping.


The IS-2 is much better for killing enemy armor with higher pen, and both tanks have the same accuracy versus vehicles. The IS-2 also does deflection damage.
17 Apr 2015, 21:30 PM
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Because drunk Russians sit inside.
17 Apr 2015, 21:35 PM
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The IS-2 is much better for killing enemy armor with higher pen, and both tanks have the same accuracy versus vehicles. The IS-2 also does deflection damage.


Think before writting.

IS2 is better AT wise, Tiger is better AI. TTK between each other is not as different 64.41s± vs 59.69±
IS2 has an edge of 2.8s at far and at near 6.3s.
AT Guns: they have exactly the same TTK, only difference is that you have TwP to win you the battle.
Infantry AT: well...PTRS (doctrinal) + AT nades vs Faust + Shrecks
17 Apr 2015, 21:49 PM
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Think before writting.

IS2 is better AT wise, Tiger is better AI. TTK between each other is not as different 64.41s± vs 59.69±
IS2 has an edge of 2.8s at far and at near 6.3s.
AT Guns: they have exactly the same TTK, only difference is that you have TwP to win you the battle.
Infantry AT: well...PTRS (doctrinal) + AT nades vs Faust + Shrecks


There is no commander with PTRS and IS-2.
17 Apr 2015, 21:49 PM
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Think before writting.

IS2 is better AT wise, Tiger is better AI. TTK between each other is not as different 64.41s± vs 59.69±
IS2 has an edge of 2.8s at far and at near 6.3s.
AT Guns: they have exactly the same TTK, only difference is that you have TwP to win you the battle.
Infantry AT: well...PTRS (doctrinal) + AT nades vs Faust + Shrecks


It does do deflection damage, and yes the Tiger is better AI. Although I would say versus USF mostly since the IS2 is normally shooting at 4 men squads while the Tiger is shooting at 5 and 6 men squads.

The big weakness as you point out of the heavy's is they have low DPS, but the IS-2's 375 frontal armor and high speed means it can get in and out of sticky situations faster than a Tiger or KT can.

18 Apr 2015, 00:02 AM
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It does do deflection damage, and yes the Tiger is better AI. Although I would say versus USF mostly since the IS2 is normally shooting at 4 men squads while the Tiger is shooting at 5 and 6 men squads.

The big weakness as you point out of the heavy's is they have low DPS, but the IS-2's 375 frontal armor and high speed means it can get in and out of sticky situations faster than a Tiger or KT can.



160 x 0.0 = 0

Little hint.
18 Apr 2015, 00:05 AM
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160 x 0.0 = 0

Little hint.


Why does it specify on the unit sheet it does deflection damage? That's weird as fuck yo.
18 Apr 2015, 00:12 AM
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i think it used to. obviously it was set to at some point and they just zeroed it and forgot to turn it off
18 Apr 2015, 00:35 AM
#20
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When they reduced the damage and reload from 240 and +9s. They thought it would balance with deflection damage.
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