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OST Panzerwerfer: Truly Underpowered

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26 Mar 2015, 12:04 PM
#121
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Leaving aside all the justifications that the panzerwerfer has a machinegun, fires more rockets in one go so it deserves a shorter range, and all the countless tit-for-tat arguments.

I think the most important thing is, how often do you see a panzerwerfer being used in a remotely competitive 2v2 game, compared to the Stuka and the Katyusha? I put it to you that for every one time the werfer is used effectively, you'd see ten or twenty katys and stukas. And for those arguing that 'oh the stuka is so much better so the ostheer player doesn't need to build one', even double ostheer don't build werfers. Mixed axis where the OKW doesn't go stuka, the ostheer doesn't go werfer either. And it's not because the werfer is some 'overlooked hidden gem', it's because it's rubbish.

Even if the werfer and the katy were absolutely identical and cost the same techwise, the katy would be better- by virtue of the axis being the defensive (campy) faction more reliant on team weapons, in theory. Add to that the fact that the werfer costs a huge amount to tech to, needs to get within AT gun range to actually hit targets, and has an awful vet1 ability compared to every single soviet indirect fire piece, and you get appalling heap of junk that it is.


Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why there is still 90% axis and 10% allies in automatch?
26 Mar 2015, 12:16 PM
#122
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Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why there is still 90% axis and 10% allies in automatch?

26 Mar 2015, 12:22 PM
#123
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Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why there is still 90% axis and 10% allies in automatch?


Oh...My...God
26 Mar 2015, 12:33 PM
#124
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Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why there is still 90% axis and 10% allies in automatch?


26 Mar 2015, 13:42 PM
#125
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Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why there is still 90% axis and 10% allies in automatch?


Have u ever teched t4?

26 Mar 2015, 14:10 PM
#126
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Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why there is still 90% axis and 10% allies in automatch?


26 Mar 2015, 14:35 PM
#127
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Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why there is still 90% axis and 10% allies in automatch?


...and I thought vetlolcake was bad :facepalm:

26 Mar 2015, 15:10 PM
#128
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Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why there is still 90% axis and 10% allies in automatch?

Logic is absent here. :D
26 Mar 2015, 15:11 PM
#129
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Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why there is still 90% axis and 10% allies in automatch?


Never before, have i seen such a well contructed, unbiased and irony free post as yours.

I thank you for that pussyking, youre one of a kind.

26 Mar 2015, 15:13 PM
#130
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Nebelwerfer is crap because of it tier,the unit it self performs fine for it cost. But it location in is just terrible. It will be usefull if it is switched to tier 3, but that will never happends.
26 Mar 2015, 15:14 PM
#131
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Mar 2015, 15:11 PMzarok47





You will await forever. Allied fanboy doesn't attack allied fanboy.
26 Mar 2015, 15:26 PM
#132
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Mar 2015, 15:11 PMzarok47


There is certain level of stupid that I won't respond to and instead just facepalm in silence :snfAmi:
Alex spam flood would be one of other examples.
26 Mar 2015, 15:35 PM
#133
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Mar 2015, 15:26 PMKatitof

There is certain level of stupid that I won't respond to and instead just facepalm in silence :snfAmi:
Alex spam flood would be one of other examples.


Days with out Katitof mentioning me in a post despite having no relevance to the topic: 0.
26 Mar 2015, 15:38 PM
#134
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dont you get it? you guys are made for each other.
26 Mar 2015, 15:38 PM
#135
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Mar 2015, 15:26 PMKatitof

There is certain level of stupid that I won't respond to and instead just facepalm in silence :snfAmi:
Alex spam flood would be one of other examples.


Never knew you were the silent guy :megusta:.
26 Mar 2015, 15:39 PM
#136
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Mar 2015, 15:38 PMzarok47


Never knew you were the silent guy :megusta:.

And shy :foreveralone:
I'm good at running ruses though so no wonder no one was able to blow my concealment.
26 Mar 2015, 15:47 PM
#137
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Ultimately the Pwerfer being shit only compounds the fact that Axis has little to no squad wipe potential like Soviets do. The ML-20 is better than the LefH, the Katyusha is better than the Pwerfer, all Axis has in the indirect department that's objectively better is the Mortar HT compared to the USF one and the Stuka, but even then it's costly enough for how well it preforms.

Blobbing is a huge issue for every faction in the game except maybe Ostheer due to it's lack of MP, but Soviets objectively have all the best tools to deal with it.

Would much rather see Axis indirect be brought up to snuff with the Pwerfer not being a Sturmtiger with no health, the LefH doing more damage than an AT gun, and the ISG not being unmitigated garbage. I don't care if it means Obers get removed or what ever, game would be much more fun if different factions didn't arbitrarily have units to fill rolls while others didn't.
26 Mar 2015, 15:51 PM
#138
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First thread I've opened in like a week on this forum and this is what I see. Quality humor, keep up the good work pussyking.


26 Mar 2015, 16:19 PM
#139
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Ding, ding, ding, ding! I think we have this month's most "valuable" post.
26 Mar 2015, 16:53 PM
#140
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Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why there is still 90% axis and 10% allies in automatch?


Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why iPhone 7 is not released yet?!!!

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