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I would just make it take more damage from small arms. like the equivalent of the Brits truck. That way the play has to secure the area knowing it won't get attacked.
This will also help with people who over extend with the flak hq as it would take more risk to set up in the middle of combat as well as the map.
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Sorry to say that, but I think a complete speed reduction is the wrong way to fix it.
Especially on some maps, I think, one side has a clear disadvantage because you have to order your troops through fences. I know that is also a micro-issue, but even when you order your troops the direct way, over the fences, you are sometimes slower than your opponent and he can be able to get the better position.
That's why I use the truck to destroy the fences.
That pushing thing, on the other hand, is really stupid, that's why I think you have to patch it in that way, that it is more risky to use it offensive, make it more vulnerable, less armor, less hp.
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The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
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If you remove the ability for the truck to push, also remove it from All scout cars and light vehicles. There is no reason a Heavy Halftrack shouldn't be able to push infantry when a scout car can, it already takes damage from small arms, and a single shock squad can kill it in about 3 seconds while it's setting up.
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Pushing is kinda stupid with every unit, and worse than that is crushing. But, A free starting unit which is available from the beginning, can crush and can scout for you should bot be able to push your units out of cover. I'm not proud of it but I myself push those poor Cons and Rifles out of cover and suppress the hell out of them with my truck and suppress them. It's game changing.
Pushing and crushing with Scout cars or half-tracks is not good IMO, but at least it's risky and you have to Micro your unit. But sWS is something else, too early, can fall back easily, and it's not that risky. If it gets destroyed it's a huge blow for OKW, but people usually use it to push your first squad and then fall back.
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Once again, why Ket push, Jeep push, bike push is skill, truck push is stupid?
Dafug is this logic?
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Once again, why Ket push, Jeep push, bike push is skill, truck push is stupid?
Dafug is this logic?
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
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If you remove the ability for the truck to push, also remove it from All scout cars and light vehicles. There is no reason a Heavy Halftrack shouldn't be able to push infantry when a scout car can, it already takes damage from small arms, and a single shock squad can kill it in about 3 seconds while it's setting up.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
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If you remove the ability for the truck to push, also remove it from All scout cars and light vehicles. There is no reason a Heavy Halftrack shouldn't be able to push infantry when a scout car can, it already takes damage from small arms, and a single shock squad can kill it in about 3 seconds while it's setting up.
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and a single shock squad can kill it in about 3 seconds while it's setting up.
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Its almost as if people think a building unit that costs no resources should have no impact in battles. Hmmmm imagine that...
a) The properties of an OKW building under setup have literally zero bearing on a halftrack's ability to push infantry.
b) Every scout car and light vehicle in the game must be purchased with fuel and manpower, and take time to accumulate fuel and build, literally none are available in the first crucial engagements when fuel is capped and map control gets carved out. I cannot wrap my mind around the fact you are trying to tie the elimination of this abusive strat to nerfing all other factions' light vehicles.
c) "Pushing with it is risky, exposes it to small arms fire" - so does pushing with light vehicles, which require teching, cost fuel and manpower, are not immediately available on the field, and whose counters can hit the field by the time they are on the field.
sWS IS COMPLETELY FREE AND IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE. Until you realize how this makes sWS pushing qualitatively different to all other light vehicles in the game, there is no point in discussing it any further.
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Agreed, remove the machine gun nests from the HQ area's.
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Hmmm... I can't follow your logic.
Its almost as if people think a building unit that costs no resources should have no impact in battles. Hmmmm imagine that...
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So we have clipping vehicles?
Unless you delay the first SwS arrival, no matter what you do, you will still have a pushing truck. Either early-early game or late-late game.
There is no risk if you push against USF or soviets before his 3rd con (cause he can get AT nades) or T1.
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