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18 Oct 2014, 19:36 PM
#1
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one of the devs please, i have duplicate of a bulletin so if i use them both does it mean it will double the effect in game or not ? it is for panzer grenadiers accuracy, i have two of it so i wanna see if it double their accuracy or not?
18 Oct 2014, 19:38 PM
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avatar of Sirlami
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Im not relic dev but i think i can answer something :D Only very few bulletins stack. Usually they are price reduction bulletins.
18 Oct 2014, 19:40 PM
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avatar of Arashenstein

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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Oct 2014, 19:38 PMSirlami
Im not relic dev but i think i can answer something :D Only very few bulletins stack. Usually they are price reduction bulletins.

it is not price bulletin i got, it is %3 more accuracy for PGs, i have two of it (dropped one in game) so i wanna see if i use them both in a loadout does it mean i am gonna get %6 more accuracy for my PGs?
18 Oct 2014, 19:44 PM
#4
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Wow, this is so important :bananadance:
18 Oct 2014, 19:53 PM
#5
avatar of Arashenstein

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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Oct 2014, 19:44 PMSchewi
Wow, this is so important :bananadance:

yea i am sacrificing a bulletin for this xD so if this is not what i think i am wasting one bulletin slot
18 Oct 2014, 20:03 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Oct 2014, 19:38 PMSirlami
Im not relic dev but i think i can answer something :D Only very few bulletins stack. Usually they are price reduction bulletins.


I'm not sure about any other bulletin but I know for fact that the USF "Grenade range increased by 7%" stacks.
18 Oct 2014, 20:26 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Oct 2014, 19:38 PMSirlami
Im not relic dev but i think i can answer something :D Only very few bulletins stack. Usually they are price reduction bulletins.


Cruzz: 95% of all bulletins stack.
18 Oct 2014, 20:43 PM
#8
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I have always had this question in mind but I was too lazy to ask it. This could be huge for some different bulletins. I have 3 copies (?!) of the bulletin that increases the movement speed of OKw's supply half-tracks, It would be very tactical if they would stack :hyper::hyper::hyper:
18 Oct 2014, 21:14 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Oct 2014, 19:44 PMSchewi
Wow, this is so important :bananadance:


Dont you know bulletins decide RNG outcomes. \
RNG bulettin: 100 percent chance of all RNG outcomes in your favor
18 Oct 2014, 21:51 PM
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18 Oct 2014, 21:57 PM
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this headline really sucks
19 Oct 2014, 11:56 AM
#12
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I´ve got the same bulletin twice. 3% accuracy on Pgrens. I´m hoping to unlock it a third time. Accuracy increases your dps directly by those 3%. So in theory you can get a bit more than 9% dps out of them, which can be quite a performance boost.
19 Oct 2014, 12:06 PM
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Cruzz: 95% of all bulletins stack.


Guess i had some old info then :)
19 Oct 2014, 13:17 PM
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Cruzz: 95% of all bulletins stack.


so what are the 5% that dont stack?
19 Oct 2014, 22:20 PM
#15
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Question, how does stacking work? Is it X + 1 + 1 + 1, or is it X + 3?

Also do the OKW Panzer IV Armour bulletins stack? Because if they do, an OKW Panzer IV with Skirts upgrade will have higher armour than an Ostheer Vet 2 Panzer IV (without armour bulletin).
19 Oct 2014, 23:15 PM
#16
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Question, how does stacking work? Is it X + 1 + 1 + 1, or is it X + 3?



I believe it's (bulletin bonus)*(number of bulletins)
19 Oct 2014, 23:33 PM
#17
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I believe it's (bulletin bonus)*(number of bulletins)


In that case:

WM Panzer IV no bulletins = 180.0 Frontal Armour
OKW Panzer IV 3 bulletins = 184.0 Frontal Armour

WM Panzer IV Vet 2, no bulletins = 234.0
OKW Panzer IV Skirts + bulletins = 239.2

So under the right conditions, OKW's Panzer IV can be better armoured than Wehrmacht's Vet 2 version :P

Of course, this also means that in theory you can get a Wehrmacht Panzer IV with 262 frontal armour, that would be worth seeing!
20 Oct 2014, 11:23 AM
#18
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Almost all bulletins stack. I have 3 Puma increase penetration bulletins (4%). I use just 2 (cause there are other important bulletins also), to give my Puma a bonus of 8% penetration and I can tell you can feel it. But it could have a 12% penetration bonus :D.
22 Oct 2014, 20:43 PM
#19
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I believe it's (bulletin bonus)*(number of bulletins)


In don't think so. In some games (like LoL and DoTA) We have "additive stacking" and "multiplicative stacking" Here are to examples From League of Legends:
Additive stacking: if your champion has two items granting +100 health each, your champion has 200 bonus health.

Multiplicative stacking: If your champion has armor granting 10% damage reduction and an item granting 10% damage reduction, you multiply the damage factors—0.9 and 0.9—to get 0.81, which means your champion has 19% damage reduction (against physical damage).

So in CoH for lets say increased armor, if you have 100 armor and two "Add 4$ amor" it will be like this:
100+(4% of 100)= 104
104+(4% of 104)= 104+4.16= 108.16

Well first of all, this is not a HUGE difference (I feel like a stupid nerd explaining this, who the hell cares about 0.16% armor :foreveralone::foreveralone::foreveralone::foreveralone: ) . And the reason that I say the games uses the latter kind is most of the time in programming, calculations are done from top to bottom, So the game checks for a bulletin, applies its effect, then checks for other bulletin and applies its effect again UNLESS the engine is told to add the effects,then to apply it.
I might be wrong though, just my thoughts.
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