Hi guys. I know I've mentioned this before, but how are people finding the USF / Sov match-up? Is anyone playing these semi-mirrors or wants to (friend me, I'm AirfixPanzer on steam)?
For me at least it's a pretty fun match-up and the early game is great. Even Russian call-ins don't have that 'oh fuck' effect OKW ones do.
I'd love to see a counterfactual mod with an imaginary WW3 set in the immediate aftermath of WW2, not least with Pershings and IS2s as well as German volunteers as an 'Allied' faction.
Modders, please!
WW3 1945 - lets talk about USF versus SU
14 Oct 2014, 17:43 PM
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14 Oct 2014, 17:47 PM
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IS-3's and T-44's vs American heavy/advanced tanks that were late for the war*
14 Oct 2014, 17:52 PM
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And uploads or casts showcasing this mode?
14 Oct 2014, 17:54 PM
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I haven't played this matchup, but I've heard it's actually very fun.
Quick question, do they have special voice clips for this match? I understand that mirror matches had their own voice samples so Wermacht would talk about 'Rogue Panzer IVs' or something like that.
Quick question, do they have special voice clips for this match? I understand that mirror matches had their own voice samples so Wermacht would talk about 'Rogue Panzer IVs' or something like that.
14 Oct 2014, 18:00 PM
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Basically USF gets fucked hard by sniper + gaurd spam.
Altho it's certainly alot more balanced than USF vs OKW
Altho it's certainly alot more balanced than USF vs OKW
14 Oct 2014, 18:13 PM
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Snipers and Guards are tough for early USF indeed. The mortar halfie is a good solution and USF infantry is superior to guards. Early armoured car spam goes both way in this match-up, though.
Jacksons utterly murder soviet armour as well.
Jacksons utterly murder soviet armour as well.
14 Oct 2014, 18:25 PM
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Count me in (Thunderhun on steam with the COD picture)...I'm really keen on doing some USF vs Sov 
Also such tourney would be amazing.
Also such tourney would be amazing.
14 Oct 2014, 18:35 PM
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A small tourney 1 v 1 and 2 v 2 would be great fun, something fresh. I don't know how the top tier players would feel about it, but I urge them to give it a go. It's really growing on me, and as a Soviet player you can have fun with some of the lesser-used commanders too.
14 Oct 2014, 19:02 PM
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Interesting... how does the ost vs OKW matchup go?
14 Oct 2014, 19:09 PM
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I don't know, haven't tried it but I imagine OKW will stomp all over the Wehr.
14 Oct 2014, 19:10 PM
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It's always awkward to see the Soviets using M3's and M5's in that scenario. It's the worst if he goes Lend-Lease, because then he gets better Shermans than the USF unless USF goes Rifle Company.
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14 Oct 2014, 19:12 PM
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That commander with the little Dodge trucks is great against a Soviet player who chooses shocks. Like I say he's pretty meh versus OKW but up against Russians it takes on a new dynamic entirely.
Ditto the Greyhound, all of a sudden a meh unit gets a new lease of life and utility.
Ditto the Greyhound, all of a sudden a meh unit gets a new lease of life and utility.
14 Oct 2014, 19:16 PM
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Soviets might have the upper hand with all those snipers and M3a1s on open maps :/
14 Oct 2014, 19:16 PM
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Hey lets just play and try it out! Will add you on Steam. I suck, but it'll be fun anyhow.
14 Oct 2014, 19:36 PM
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I don't know, haven't tried it but I imagine OKW will stomp all over the Wehr.
Hmm, I don't know. Imagine the Wehr sniper wrecking OKW infantry? Grens would have an advantage over Volks in early game too...
I would like to try that matchup sometime actually.
14 Oct 2014, 19:52 PM
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Done this a couple of times with WB custom game testing.
USF and Rogue fallshcrimjagers vs Soviets in Berlin.. Epic
USF and Rogue fallshcrimjagers vs Soviets in Berlin.. Epic
14 Oct 2014, 19:58 PM
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OKW vs. Ostheer also seems like a fun matchup.
14 Oct 2014, 20:08 PM
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I never got why people hype and hype about 'omg soviet snipers will wreck 4eva' when the Germans have a better sniper already. RoF > Durability for snipers even m ore so than usual when the army you fight has no conveniently available mortars or sprints
14 Oct 2014, 20:41 PM
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I never got why people hype and hype about 'omg soviet snipers will wreck 4eva' when the Germans have a better sniper already. RoF > Durability for snipers even m ore so than usual when the army you fight has no conveniently available mortars or sprints
While the Ostheer sniper does seem better in a vacuum, you will RARELY see matches where one survives to vet 2 or more. Last time I used one he took about 15% damage, then took 2 bullets at near max-range from the first burst from a vet 0 Maxim and was gone forever. That will rarely happen to the Soviet sniper. In addition, Soviet units have larger squad sizes and lower reinforce cost than Axis so the sniper is just not as good unless you are specifically targeting Shocks or , to a lesser extent, Guards.
Easy fix: Soviet sniper only has minimal sight range without his spotter alive. Makes the tension between reinforcing and staying on the field and using other units to spot much more real.
One last thing: The Ostheer sniper heals very fast when you use the vet 1 medpacks from grens or pioneers on him.
14 Oct 2014, 21:02 PM
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Can Pathfinder teams counter-snipe or do they only work versus injured units in that respect?
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