Yes the win rate is high in 4vs4s for the OKW. But (!!!) there are ways to defeat them in early game and spamm your pretty t34s or kattys until you rape their base.
The answer to this dilemma as Soviets is very easy: get t1, make a penal battalion, then the cute half-truck followed by another penal bettailion. By this time you have enough ammo to afford one flamethrower. Put the penal flame bettailion in the cute half-truck and ride around with this flame of doom. Murder their first sturmpio squad or filthy kubelwagen. In the meanwhile make another cute halftruck and by this time you have enough for a second flamethrower squad. Repeat process and rape anything you find.
From here on it is a simple case of spamming simple tanks or getting guards and putting them in one of the halftrucks as well and finish them off quick.
For US i have no clue on how to beat them fast though!
OKW whine and tears
2 Oct 2014, 18:06 PM
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2 Oct 2014, 18:11 PM
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yeah.. 
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2 Oct 2014, 18:12 PM
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2 Oct 2014, 18:28 PM
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I played Pantherswag the other day, he was using US and I was using OKW.
He used ten million riflemen and I was all like OH GOD WHAT DO I DOOOOOOOOOOO!? And lost. My raketenwerfers were useless against them. Obviously they need a major buff.
So that works sometimes, but it's probably just that he was a better player than me. In fact, that's almost certainly what it was.
For real though, when I play against OKW I don't find that that hard to deal with in 1v1. With Soviets even Cons can do well against them early game if you keep them close enough together to support eachother. At least hold out until you get some kind of support up, either an M3 or Maxim to push them back a little.
He used ten million riflemen and I was all like OH GOD WHAT DO I DOOOOOOOOOOO!? And lost. My raketenwerfers were useless against them. Obviously they need a major buff.
So that works sometimes, but it's probably just that he was a better player than me. In fact, that's almost certainly what it was.
For real though, when I play against OKW I don't find that that hard to deal with in 1v1. With Soviets even Cons can do well against them early game if you keep them close enough together to support eachother. At least hold out until you get some kind of support up, either an M3 or Maxim to push them back a little.
2 Oct 2014, 18:31 PM
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Murder their first sturmpio squad or filthy kubelwagen.
If only it were that simple...
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
2 Oct 2014, 18:39 PM
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If only it were that simple...
I have done it in so many games man it isn't that hard since they burn so well
2 Oct 2014, 18:53 PM
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I have done it in so many games man it isn't that hard since they burn so well
Ill give it a chance
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
2 Oct 2014, 18:56 PM
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I find the M3 to be a major threat if may squads are caught on their own, that's why I usually try to keep them close enough that they can all convene and focus fire it. Even without raketenwerfers you can usually kill or scare off an M3 with Sturms in cover to draw the fire and then 2 Volks or Kubel attacking it too. It'll depend on what the opponent is doing with his other units that's tough.
This is 1v1, I have no idea what the early game is like in 4v4.
This is 1v1, I have no idea what the early game is like in 4v4.
2 Oct 2014, 19:08 PM
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I have no idea what the early game is like in 4v4.
2 Oct 2014, 19:28 PM
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As OKW:
-Get Volk
-Move camera towards enemy base and see shadow of Soviet buildings.
---If rectangular: maxim spam. Play as usual > Go Kubel + Truck push
---If nothing: conscript spam. Play as usual > Go Kubel + Truck push
---If box: T1. Check for his units. See if he goes snipers/Penals/M3.
-----Be wary to back up your truck earlier.
-----Be "defensive" with the Kubel. Get Puma/AA HT he doesn't have counters on T1.
Meanwhile the poor USF
-Get Volk
-Move camera towards enemy base and see shadow of Soviet buildings.
---If rectangular: maxim spam. Play as usual > Go Kubel + Truck push
---If nothing: conscript spam. Play as usual > Go Kubel + Truck push
---If box: T1. Check for his units. See if he goes snipers/Penals/M3.
-----Be wary to back up your truck earlier.
-----Be "defensive" with the Kubel. Get Puma/AA HT he doesn't have counters on T1.
Meanwhile the poor USF
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
3 Oct 2014, 06:27 AM
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Is being able to see tech building shadows a bug?
3 Oct 2014, 06:44 AM
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Posts: 4928
Probably, it never happened before WFA.
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3 Oct 2014, 07:44 AM
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Yes the win rate is high in 4vs4s for the OKW. But (!!!) there are ways to defeat them in early game and spamm your pretty t34s or kattys until you rape their base.
The answer to this dilemma as Soviets is very easy: get t1, make a penal battalion, then the cute half-truck followed by another penal bettailion. By this time you have enough ammo to afford one flamethrower. Put the penal flame bettailion in the cute half-truck and ride around with this flame of doom. Murder their first sturmpio squad or filthy kubelwagen.
A sturmpio + kubelwagen combo murders the Soviet scout car. And any decent player will keep those two units together.
3 Oct 2014, 09:04 AM
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M3 Flamer is so fun to play with... i call it the Kübel hunter and nazi punisher.
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3 Oct 2014, 09:09 AM
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M3s can be good I guess.. A decent player will not lose a squad to it though. Not even the kubel. T34s against OKW? Must be... no, no just no. Maybe if he doesnt get shreks. Or raketen.. Or puma. Then perhaps!
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3 Oct 2014, 09:18 AM
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M3s can be good I guess.. A decent player will not lose a squad to it though. Not even the kubel. T34s against OKW? Must be... no, no just no. Maybe if he doesnt get shreks. Or raketen.. Or puma. Then perhaps!
Oh, a decent player will lose a Volk, Sturm or Kubel. You need to do it correctly.
Im getting above average players all the time with my rank, and its so satisfying to see their kübels die.
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3 Oct 2014, 09:43 AM
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OKW - broken
USF- broken
Ostheer - broken
Soviets - obliged to cheese tactics and stupid faction architecture
=> game is broken
=> doesn't worth playing
USF- broken
Ostheer - broken
Soviets - obliged to cheese tactics and stupid faction architecture
=> game is broken
=> doesn't worth playing
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
3 Oct 2014, 10:04 AM
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Posts: 246
OKW - broken
USF- broken
Ostheer - broken
Soviets - obliged to cheese tactics and stupid faction architecture
=> game is broken
=> doesn't worth playing
But.. but... it's worth whining!
UA
soviets
3 Oct 2014, 11:15 AM
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Posts: 923
I think everyone wins 4v4s as Allies sometimes. But most complaints are that as it stands now is:
If gameEndtime = <15
set Winner = Allies
elif
set Winner = Axis
and that plainly sucks.
If gameEndtime = <15
set Winner = Allies
elif
set Winner = Axis
and that plainly sucks.
Disclaimer: Posts made while drunk should not count against this poster.
3 Oct 2014, 12:08 PM
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Posts: 42
OKW - broken
USF- broken
Ostheer - broken
Soviets - obliged to cheese tactics and stupid faction architecture
=> game is broken
=> doesn't worth playing
Nailed it.
Is it not obvious dumb ass? The word "kill", means that I pull the trigger, the gun goes off and your brain splatter all over the sand. The beach gets bloody and you gets dead.
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