How to use Assault Grens?

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2014, 21:33 PMDiogenes5

You're right. I meant in terms of combat characteristics. These guys are expensive and take forever to reinforce. I got hard-countered by a soviet sniper start using these guys. It was not pretty. They simply couldn't close the distance against snipers and were a huge mp drain.

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2014, 23:52 PMCasparitus

They are not supposed to be your backbone or anything. I think this is how call-ins should be in general, pretty bad but have its situational use and more than anything they should be fun. If you are going versus Soviet T1 you can probably suspect Snipers and Guards. I got some good training in automatch versus this guy that was pretty high rank, about 30-60 not quite sure and he would always go t1 on Semoisky.

This one game where I actually do some damage to him and challenge his snipers was a three assgren start into quick SC. Doing that, mainly you just want those assgrens spread out and avoid fighting him AT all. Sprint away if you have to or get inside houses. My SC managed to chase one sniper down to his base and nearly killed the second one before he could get his Guards out. After he had got like 3 of them it was pretty much GG though since I didn't have a follow-up. I went for an Ostwind but Guards are too strong and when he had the CPs he could get 4 t34/85s out.

Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2014, 19:16 PMCasparitus

If I had 0 cp Osttruppen I'd rather use them obviously. Point is you can skip t1.

Jump back to quoted post17 Oct 2014, 04:57 AMDiogenes5

Of course with the assault grens, you are usually going at least a triple assault gren start before you even know what they are doing. And the reinforce cost is significantly more than a normal grenadier.

Jump back to quoted post23 Oct 2014, 06:15 AMImSkemo

do you have any recent replay of using Assault Grens play im new to Ostheer i wanted to try this commander out i usually rush all the way to his cuttoff in first minute and hide in bushes till my second squad cachthes up bait the opp with pioneers this works well at lowlevel but after this i have no follow plan ,

Jump back to quoted post23 Oct 2014, 15:22 PMdarkerdayzud

Your gonna have a bad day doing that vs US faction. ....Oshteer is just not meant to be played aggresively early game IMO. You WILL get flanked and then run the risk of losing precious team weapons (mgs or Mortars) and youll have no proper territory of your own behind that.

Honestly Ass.Grens suck. Period. If they had the STG44 assault rifles the Panzergrens have, then they would be very viable (sort of the German version of the soviet shocktroops). As is, the pea shooters they come equipped with scare no one.

Heres an Idea: Raise the initial cost, give em STGs, drop to 3 XP points unlock requirement. DO NOT give em shrecks , if the cost is lower than Pgrens (say 300mp) , then you have an alternative close range unit at early -mid game.