Skipping tier 1

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2014, 17:33 PMJZuna

Hi let me just start by making a small correction you are talking about skipping tier 2 not
tier 1, tier 1 is where you have gren, mg, mortar and sniper, tier 2 is the one with pack, pgren and light vehicles.

In my opinion ostheer is simply the only faction that cant skip a tier so this strat just doesn't feel viable, in times past this was actually possible but ever since the tier cost was changed its just not doable.

It will lose vs soviet tier 1 strats because you need scout car vs sniper or m3, you could try to rely on a doctrine to counter tier 1 only 2 doctrines that i can think of come with the 250 halftrack call in, one gives you LMG gren and its stock, the other gives you pgren with the halftrack so that's one way to get AT support until tanks arrive but this doctrine is DLC. It will lose vs any US Strats because you need pack to counter light vehicles which are available in any tier the US chooses to start with.

Also if you are serious about skipping tier 2 than create a bigger tier 1 army 3 gren, mg is a nice start then unlock Battle phase 1 to get lmg on grens, but keep making more units 1 more mg maybe a mortar if the map relies on house control or green cover, and more grens, not getting pgren so 2 more gren at least, if you float a lot of mp build fuel cashes to speed your tank production.

There is no point is rushing for tier 3 for medium tanks if you don't have the fuel yet, you build tier 3 and are left with 10 or 20 fuel that was a waste of mp that should be used to create a bigger army, start battle phase 2 when you have about 140 fuel, cost 55 for BP2, 25 for Tier 3, and 80 for Stug, 55 + 25 + 80 = 160 so by the time tier 3 is up you can afford your first tank right away.

But ultimately jut don't skip the tier its only 15 fuel its not going to make such a huge difference and you need the units it provides at some point, hope this helped in any way

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2014, 17:33 PMJZuna

Hi let me just start by making a small correction you are talking about skipping tier 2 not
tier 1, tier 1 is where you have gren, mg, mortar and sniper, tier 2 is the one with pack, pgren and light vehicles.

In my opinion ostheer is simply the only faction that cant skip a tier so this strat just doesn't feel viable, in times past this was actually possible but ever since the tier cost was changed its just not doable.

It will lose vs soviet tier 1 strats because you need scout car vs sniper or m3, you could try to rely on a doctrine to counter tier 1 only 2 doctrines that i can think of come with the 250 halftrack call in, one gives you LMG gren and its stock, the other gives you pgren with the halftrack so that's one way to get AT support until tanks arrive but this doctrine is DLC. It will lose vs any US Strats because you need pack to counter light vehicles which are available in any tier the US chooses to start with.

Also if you are serious about skipping tier 2 than create a bigger tier 1 army 3 gren, mg is a nice start then unlock Battle phase 1 to get lmg on grens, but keep making more units 1 more mg maybe a mortar if the map relies on house control or green cover, and more grens, not getting pgren so 2 more gren at least, if you float a lot of mp build fuel cashes to speed your tank production.

There is no point is rushing for tier 3 for medium tanks if you don't have the fuel yet, you build tier 3 and are left with 10 or 20 fuel that was a waste of mp that should be used to create a bigger army, start battle phase 2 when you have about 140 fuel, cost 55 for BP2, 25 for Tier 3, and 80 for Stug, 55 + 25 + 80 = 160 so by the time tier 3 is up you can afford your first tank right away.

But ultimately jut don't skip the tier its only 15 fuel its not going to make such a huge difference and you need the units it provides at some point, hope this helped in any way