1 question, the phrase *Quality over Quantity* is not true anymore?
I mean,
Germans have 4 men squads but 1 armor.
Russians have 6 men squads but 1 armor too.
The advantage in german infantry is..what..a little more dps at long range?
ridiculous russian buff
3 May 2014, 19:54 PM
#21
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3 May 2014, 19:59 PM
#22
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1 question, the phrase *Quality over Quantity* is not true anymore?
I mean,
Germans have 4 men squads but 1 armor.
Russians have 6 men squads but 1 armor too.
The advantage in german infantry is..what..a little more dps at long range?
More dps at long range, if upgraded with an LMG they have much better damage and scale more into late game than conscripts do, without really losing much dps at close range. Conscripts can gain more close range dps, but sacrifice a lot of long range and mid range dps.
3 May 2014, 20:01 PM
#23
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I miss when german infantry had 1.5 armor, to simulate better quality troops and training :/
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3 May 2014, 20:05 PM
#24
Posts: 978
I miss when german infantry had 1.5 armor, to simulate better quality troops and training :/In the latest patch I don´t build Panzergrenadiers any longer. They never pay off. They are definitely not worth 340 mp. I´m usually better off with getting MG42s and Paks as my main army.
3 May 2014, 20:07 PM
#25
10 Posts: 871
I miss when german infantry had 1.5 armor, to simulate better quality troops and training :/
Pre march patch they were ok but when the infantry damage patch came, they just became too good because of better dps, especially when paired with lmg's and G43's. I'm fine with Grens being stronger but when they cost the same it didn't make sense.
3 May 2014, 20:09 PM
#26
Posts: 1701
Why not then make german infantry a bit more expensive and at the same time a bit better at survivability?
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3 May 2014, 20:12 PM
#27
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Why not then make german infantry a bit more expensive and at the same time a bit better at survivability?
Who knows. Maybe it was to prevent conscript spamming. Will be interesting to see what Riflemen are like next month as imo the way they worked was fine.
3 May 2014, 20:42 PM
#28
Posts: 77
Is this your playercard? http://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/steamid/76561198050296995
yes as you see, i play both factions
3 May 2014, 20:49 PM
#29
Posts: 77
Looks like you're playing only 1 side. If cons+sniper+guards is so OP tactic why you are not TOP 10 as soviets? Use it, good players will show you how to beat it
why im not top 10 as soviet? because as i said i play both factions.i wount be top 10 on soviet till top 10 on german. now are you top 10 as soviets?
as puppetmaster pointed out
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3 May 2014, 21:00 PM
#30
Posts: 1701
Who knows. Maybe it was to prevent conscript spamming. Will be interesting to see what Riflemen are like next month as imo the way they worked was fine.
hehe yes, Cant wait to see western front german faction, and how it works...
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3 May 2014, 21:06 PM
#31
Posts: 77
Looks like you're playing only 1 side. If cons+sniper+guards is so OP tactic why you are not TOP 10 as soviets? Use it, good players will show you how to beat it
reread the first two lines.
3 May 2014, 21:15 PM
#32
Posts: 381
Is this your playercard? http://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/steamid/76561198050296995
I would say he plays both factions more for games played total, than you sov fanboy.
3 May 2014, 21:17 PM
#33
Posts: 77
Looks like you're playing only 1 side. If cons+sniper+guards is so OP tactic why you are not TOP 10 as soviets? Use it, good players will show you how to beat it
also by your fallacious argument, i wood be the top 10 soviet player IF only i get to do the spam combo. however, every soviet player can spam, im just not the best spammer
3 May 2014, 21:21 PM
#34
Posts: 381
1 question, the phrase *Quality over Quantity* is not true anymore?
I mean,
Germans have 4 men squads but 1 armor.
Russians have 6 men squads but 1 armor too.
The advantage in german infantry is..what..a little more dps at long range?
MG on gren is still powerful. Con spam isn't as bad as it was 6 months ago. grens+pgrens used properly is very potent. Its sniper + cons + penal + flame cars thats hard to beat.
4 May 2014, 01:25 AM
#35
Posts: 578
DarthBong your level of maturity is apparent by your signature.
I would hope COH2 dies off completely before fanboys such as yourself get to influence balance.
I would hope COH2 dies off completely before fanboys such as yourself get to influence balance.
4 May 2014, 02:59 AM
#36
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I´m amazed by the tolerance of this forums.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
4 May 2014, 03:46 AM
#37
Posts: 381
DarthBong your level of maturity is apparent by your signature.
I would hope COH2 dies off completely before fanboys such as yourself get to influence balance.
Lol you are a fool. How have any of my suggestions been fanboyish? How? You, Puppetmaster, and katitof are the biggest tools here.
4 May 2014, 05:26 AM
#38
Posts: 2487 | Subs: 21
I wouldn't say it's ridiculous, just uneven in terms of survive-ability, armor, and effectiveness for certain units/armor.
4 May 2014, 05:32 AM
#39
Posts: 342
Permanently BannedI agree that soviet buff went too far.
4 May 2014, 06:38 AM
#40
Posts: 522
Still don't see anyone trying to countersnipe. The ready-aim time on the soviet sniper is longer than the first shot re-cloak on the german sniper, so you can consistantly pick off one man of the soviet team and get away. Do that 4 times and the german sniper has paid for itself.
Easier said than done of course but I don't think its unreasonable to have to counter snipers with snipers.
I tried making german sniper work but 99% of the time it will not pay off. It is very easy to lose, just a 2-3 lucky rolls and it'll die to small arm fire. It's survivability atm doesn't make it worth it to try to countersnipe.
Anyways, I'll agree with the OP, 5-6 conscript spam backed up with shocks or sniper backed up with guards is ridiculously hard to beat. Grens die trying to attack sandbag positions. Mg will get flanked from multiple directions or sniped to death. Panzergrens die like flies. By the time you get your panzer 4 out you'll be starving for map control and Russians can spam 4 T-34-85 and rush your base. Mines one shotting full-health squads isn't helping with the situation.
Best Germans can do is gren spam and get upgunned scout car to kill sniper. But the Russians will just outzerg you with inf and cap the entire map until they can spam T34s :/ I'll say this patch is in favor of russians.
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