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Relic, Please make all T-34/85 single call-in

28 Apr 2014, 12:31 PM
#1
avatar of UGBEAR

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Reason to make it single call-in:

*720MP and 260 Fuel for a medium tank investment is too high.
*Almost impossible to replenish any T-34/85 losses since next call in still needs 720MP and 260Fuel.
*T-34/85 isn't that great for a initial cost of 260Fuel and it's doctrinal unit.
*Why only the T-34/85 suffers from a double call-in penalty while all other armored vehicles are not?
28 Apr 2014, 13:31 PM
#2
avatar of Katitof

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Actually T34/85 is pretty great. 2 of them with mark target can take on tiger.

I also don't like dual call-in, it ruins especially commanders like armored assault, but I doubt it will be changed.
28 Apr 2014, 13:38 PM
#3
avatar of Kreatiir

Posts: 2819

Dude (look avatar, that's my face now), 85's are awesome :)
These are in my opinion the best medium tanks.
They turn many games around!

I also don't like the double call-in, I prefer an upgrade for the normal T34, but hey, WHO I AM?!
28 Apr 2014, 13:52 PM
#4
avatar of UGBEAR

Posts: 954

Dude (look avatar, that's my face now), 85's are awesome :)
These are in my opinion the best medium tanks.
They turn many games around!

I also don't like the double call-in, I prefer an upgrade for the normal T34, but hey, WHO I AM?!


Oh, that must be misleading, my point is its greatness doesn't match the cost of 260Fuel investiment.
28 Apr 2014, 13:56 PM
#5
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Apr 2014, 13:52 PMUGBEAR


Oh, that must be misleading, my point is its greatness doesn't match the cost of 260Fuel investiment.


:lolol: Yes, I would like life to be easier too. But it's just...life, ya know? You missed the Advanced Warfare doctrine cake, didn't you?
28 Apr 2014, 14:07 PM
#6
avatar of Aerohank

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:lolol: Yes, I would like life to be easier too. But it's just...life, ya know? You missed the Advanced Warfare doctrine cake, didn't you?


And the luftwaffe guy, now I can't spam planes everywhere. That doctrine looks quite fun to use. :(
28 Apr 2014, 15:00 PM
#7
avatar of Kronosaur0s

Posts: 1701

It is single in 2 commanders, the one with 1 strafe Skillplane, and the Sherman :p
28 Apr 2014, 15:04 PM
#8
avatar of Kreatiir

Posts: 2819

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Apr 2014, 13:52 PMUGBEAR


Oh, that must be misleading, my point is its greatness doesn't match the cost of 260Fuel investiment.


260 = 130 each, I think that's not too much for this tank..
But again, personal opinion.
28 Apr 2014, 15:06 PM
#9
avatar of tokarev

Posts: 307

It is single in 2 commanders, the one with 1 strafe Skillplane, and the Sherman :p


Not exactory....))
It is double in two commanders - the other one with IS-2 and a single in commander with ppsh and skill planes.

On topic, yes I would love to see them as a single unit too.
28 Apr 2014, 15:11 PM
#10
avatar of Shazz

Posts: 194

That's a sizeable buff to the T34/85, already arguably the best overall tank in the game. With the exception of Advanced Warfare (which doesn't have guards, mark target) the fact that it's a mandatory double callin is part of its balancing factor.

28 Apr 2014, 15:14 PM
#11
avatar of The_rEd_bEar

Posts: 760

Then increase its cp to compensate, or release another commander thats has a sinlge call in.
28 Apr 2014, 15:21 PM
#12
avatar of UGBEAR

Posts: 954



260 = 130 each, I think that's not too much for this tank..
But again, personal opinion.


double call-in needs 260 fuel=10 mines of fuel income (if average was 26+)

Single call-in needs only 140 fuel, that means your T-34/85 hits the field is almost 5 min earlier than the double call-in, that makes a huge difference.

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Apr 2014, 15:11 PMShazz
That's a sizeable buff to the T34/85, already arguably the best overall tank in the game. With the exception of Advanced Warfare (which doesn't have guards, mark target) the fact that it's a mandatory double callin is part of its balancing factor.



Best overall tank? I don't think so,only if it is non-doctrinal like the P4,

double call-in makes it the most costly unit in game which no other units suffer from the double call-in penalty.

28 Apr 2014, 15:45 PM
#13
avatar of Brick Top

Posts: 1162

85 is a very very good tank. Especially with mark target and crew repairs, it's insane.

It supposed to be a battle group so they can work together flanking. And call in units should be costly or it's too easy to ignore tier buildings.

If you stall waiting for enough CP to call these, it's a advantage to have dual because they have a higher shock value. Rather than calling one and having to wait for cool down to call a second.
28 Apr 2014, 17:37 PM
#14
avatar of Porygon

Posts: 2779

Single or dual, they both have their advantage.

For single you can indeed replace or add the tanks only for 130 fuel (is it changed yet?), but it cannot give your opponent a big impact as the dual call in.
28 Apr 2014, 17:39 PM
#15
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i like having both, just like to see some commanders that have single 85s. :)
28 Apr 2014, 22:42 PM
#16
avatar of UGBEAR

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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Apr 2014, 17:39 PMWiFiDi
i like having both, just like to see some commanders that have single 85s. :)


I would so, and I do prefer single call-in
29 Apr 2014, 07:24 AM
#17
avatar of jackill2611

Posts: 246

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Apr 2014, 22:42 PMUGBEAR


I would so, and I do prefer single call-in


Advanced warfare tactics
29 Apr 2014, 07:25 AM
#18
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Advanced warfare tactics


i meant though having more commanders with teh single call in right now we only have 1. :(
29 Apr 2014, 07:44 AM
#19
avatar of Kreatiir

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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Apr 2014, 15:21 PMUGBEAR


double call-in needs 260 fuel=10 mines of fuel income (if average was 26+)

Single call-in needs only 140 fuel, that means your T-34/85 hits the field is almost 5 min earlier than the double call-in, that makes a huge difference.


Yes, but you got 2 t34/85's in 1 shot which is a huge advantage.

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Apr 2014, 15:21 PMUGBEAR

Best overall tank? I don't think so,only if it is non-doctrinal like the P4.



Lots of people agree that is the best overall medium tank, doctrinal or non-doctrinal doesn't matter in this case.
29 Apr 2014, 08:41 AM
#20
avatar of UGBEAR

Posts: 954

I really don't buy the so called "shock value"

you know, you can save up 2 T-34/85 by single call-in, which is only 40MP and 20 fuel cost more than double call-in............

BUT, the most important factor for single call-in is:

*Come to battle field much earlier than double call-in.

*SO MUCH EASIER TO REPLENISH LOSSES.

* Why the hell relic make the T-34/85 suffer from the single call-in?
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