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is the coh2 ladder broken ?

5 Mar 2014, 16:43 PM
#1
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here is my rank info
http://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/steamid/76561197973274253

my stats have not changed in the last week or so.....my rank is the same on coh2 and relic leaderboards. what is wrong ?

i had won a couple games in a row, and my 2v2 stayed at a -1 for win/loss. then i have now lost 2 in a row and my 2v2 win/loss is still at -1. no change.
Seb
5 Mar 2014, 16:45 PM
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Are you playing with friends ?

You probably need to look for AT stats now : http://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/viewBoard/1/steamid/76561197973274253
5 Mar 2014, 16:46 PM
#3
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Also, you need 10 games before you get your new ranking. Until then you just get the P.
5 Mar 2014, 16:55 PM
#4
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Mar 2014, 16:45 PMSeb
Are you playing with friends ?

You probably need to look for AT stats now : http://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/viewBoard/1/steamid/76561197973274253


DOH !
i didn't even see/know about that pull down.....

i just had a bookmark to my ranking.

so are there plans to have a friend team rank and a non-friend team rank ?>
5 Mar 2014, 16:58 PM
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Not plans. That's how it is since the Aftermath update.

More info in the newspost: http://www.coh2.org/news/14692/top-200-ladders-for-arranged-teams
5 Mar 2014, 16:59 PM
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"friend team rank "and "non-friend team rank" are separate. Each team has its own rank.
5 Mar 2014, 19:32 PM
#8
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it still seems to show the "most played faction" from the main stats page on the 2v2, 3v3, etc... pages, itd be cool to have a seperate most played faction for each section.
5 Mar 2014, 19:55 PM
#9
avatar of Flamee

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Also one thing noticed is that if you play with one friend bigger games than 2vs2 ladder will register those as 2vs2. Easy to rank up in 2vs2 because team games are generally a bit easier..

Of course not how I would like it to have, but I guess this is up to Relic to fix? Seems like simple fix though, if friend players equal to game size = it is not AT match.
5 Mar 2014, 20:33 PM
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it still seems to show the "most played faction" from the main stats page on the 2v2, 3v3, etc... pages, itd be cool to have a seperate most played faction for each section.


Most played faction is decided by a scan over full player card stats. It's a cold sort which puts most wins + losses combined to the top.

jump backJump back to quoted post5 Mar 2014, 19:55 PMFlamee
Also one thing noticed is that if you play with one friend bigger games than 2vs2 ladder will register those as 2vs2. Easy to rank up in 2vs2 because team games are generally a bit easier..

Of course not how I would like it to have, but I guess this is up to Relic to fix? Seems like simple fix though, if friend players equal to game size = it is not AT match.


That's the way how the system works. You and your teammate are recognized as a team for as long as there are no other arranged players in your team.
6 Mar 2014, 10:53 AM
#11
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I do not really know the reasoning for changing something that was good in the first place but hey do it anyways not like our opinions matter. Just to say i loved the leaderboard and the ranking before more than it is now.
6 Mar 2014, 11:17 AM
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Could you be more specific? Nothing has really changed, stats are just separated between classic ranked stats (random team mates) and arranged team ranked stats.
6 Mar 2014, 11:20 AM
#13
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Why separate the stats?
6 Mar 2014, 11:23 AM
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I guess you can't please everyone but the point is to give arranged teams a possibility to see their ranking. You can't compare random 2v2 teams to arranged 2v2 teams. That's why they are separated to 2v2 ranked ladders and 2v2 arranged team ranked ladders.
6 Mar 2014, 11:25 AM
#15
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Yes im not pleased with that and i came here just so that you would know that there are people that dislike that change to the leaderboard.
6 Mar 2014, 11:30 AM
#16
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Well, there is nothing I can do about that. We are provided with an API to Relic leaderboards. I think this separation is a good thing as you can see full arranged team history in your playercard. Plus now Arranged teams can compete against other arranged teams instead of mixing it with random players.
6 Mar 2014, 14:46 PM
#17
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Relic made this change to the ladder system, so if you are not liking it there is nothing we can do, you should direct your concerns to them. That being said, we totally support the change because it's a way to encourage teams to play (it also creates some competition and potentially allows us to seed better teams when we organize tourneys)! :)

In the future I'd like to see this system further improved by dividing the pool of players that are searching for 2vs2 (at least, I don't mind about 3vs3 and 4vs4 due to the past experiences on COH1) as a team and those that are alone (random players): it would certainly increase a bit the waiting time but at least we would create the foundations for a better competitive scene for teams that could play ranked games expecting to fight only against other teams (and on the other side those who play 2vs2 alone would have way more chances to win because they wouldn't have to be faced against teams)
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