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Jump back to quoted post21 Feb 2018, 23:27 PMMajorBloodnok

The UK Archer 17 pounder SP ATG:



Why could the Britz not have this, Relic? Why?

Jump back to quoted post21 Feb 2018, 23:28 PMafrrs

because its a prototype

Production started in mid-1943 and the Archer entered service in October 1944. It was used in North-West Europe and (in 1945) in Italy.[5] By the end of the war, 655 of them had been produced. The Archer was classified as a self-propelled anti-tank gun and like the British 3in SPG M10 and 17pdr SP Achilles, was operated during the war by the Royal Artillery (RA) rather than by Royal Armoured Corps units. The vehicles were never called "tank destroyers" as the British and Commonwealth armies never used the tank destroyer doctrine but as "self-propelled anti-tank guns".

Post-war, the Archer served with the Egyptian Army. The Archer served with some units of the Royal Armoured Corps in the British Army of the Rhine (BAOR) in the early 1950s.

Jump back to quoted post21 Feb 2018, 23:47 PMafrrs

655 of them had been produced.

like i said , prototype

and i dont believe thats the right number

maybe 10 of those were built

Jump back to quoted post21 Feb 2018, 23:51 PMMajorBloodnok

You're in denial!

The AVRE: another of Hobart's 'funnies':

Jump back to quoted post21 Feb 2018, 23:52 PMafrrs

no denial , i believe in what i choose to belive

u hv your opinion i hv mine

Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2018, 00:24 AMMajorBloodnok

http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/gb/Archer_17pdr_SPG.php

Jump back to quoted post22 Feb 2018, 10:32 AMLordRommel

Archer units in ww2:

- 20th Anti-Tank Regiment, Royal Artillery
- 18th Battery, 2nd Anti-Tank Regiment, 4th Brigade, 2nd Canadian Infantry Division
- ? Anti-Tank Regiment, 15th Scottish Division
- 314th Battery, 105th Anti-Tank Regiment, XIII Corps

A british battery had 12 guns in 1944. The anti tank regiment had at least 4 batteries. So there were at least 48+ (at least 4 active frontline batteries) Archers in western Europe and Italy.

Here is an Archer SPG in Kranenburg 1945, Germany:

2nd canadian and 15th scottish Division took part in the Battle of the Reichswald. So the Archer is from one of those units (I think it is an Archer of the Scottish Division because the Scottish Division marched through the town of Kranenburg that was flooded by the Rhine flood).


Picture of the victory "parade" of the 314th Battery, 105th AT Regiment in May 1945 in Italy.
You can see at least 6 of the 12 vehicles of the battery. Basing on Perrett there were 2 batteries with Archer TDs in Italy.

Source: Perrett, Bryan: Allied Tank Destroyers. London 1979.