Raketens are too good

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 17:04 PMIncendiaryRounds

I said a few posts earlier the rak has 10 LESS penetration than the pak. JESUS, can people READ????

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 17:06 PMT.R. Stormjäger

ARE YOU STUPID? YOU SAID THE PAK BOUNCES UP TO HALF ITS SHOTS AND THE RAK PENS THEM ALL THE TIME!

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 17:07 PMIncendiaryRounds

I was comparing the rak to the 57mm. The rak's RoF is closer to the 57mm than it is to the pak.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 16:51 PMIncendiaryRounds

It's beyond me how people think it's okay for an at gun that penetrations mediums every shot to have the almost the same insane RoF as another at gun that bounces up to half its shots against enemy mediums and now has only 5 less range and a whole lot of more survivability.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 07:31 AMIncendiaryRounds

Basically, the raketen deserves a RoF nerf to be similar to the pak. Don't get technical with me about reload time and aim time bullshit. Just make the time it takes to fire a fucking shot the same as a pak. So the powerlevel of the rak is roughly the same. 10 less pen, 5 less range, no gun shield, but 5 man crew, retreat, and camo and the price is cheaper make it roughly the same powerlevel as the other at guns.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 16:44 PMIncendiaryRounds

And like I said, none of those stats matter. Can u read? I said "don't get technical with me." The only stat that matters is TIME TO KILL. Put any stock allied medium in the range of a pak and a raketen. I dare you to tell me that the pak will kill the tank faster than the rak.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 17:13 PMT.R. Stormjäger

This is the post I quoted where you don’t even mention the 57mm M1. Let’s take a look at the posts you made before it:






Yup, you’re an idiot. If you’re gonna argue at least name the units.


And btw the Pak40 has 3.5-4.1 sec reload at vet 0 while a vet 0 raketen has a 3.8-4.3 sec reload. Even your stats are stupid.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 17:28 PMIncendiaryRounds

I just didn't think people would be so dense to think I'm referring to a pak, when I said the at gun bounces up to half it's shot vs enemy med. Literally only one at gun has that characteristic.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 17:28 PMIncendiaryRounds

I just didn't think people would be so dense to think I'm referring to a pak, when I said the at gun bounces up to half it's shot vs enemy med. Literally only one at gun has that characteristic.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 17:07 PMIncendiaryRounds

I was comparing the rak to the 57mm. The rak's RoF is closer to the 57mm than it is to the pak.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 17:29 PMSkysTheLimit

No it isn't. If you were comparing reload of 57mm, pak40, rak43 it goes 57mm, pak, rak (fastest to slowest)

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 17:04 PMIncendiaryRounds

I said a few posts earlier the rak has 10 LESS penetration than the pak. JESUS, can people READ????

And to respond to your earlier comment, yes rak is OP. If would be fine if its RoF (time-to-kill) was the same as the pak.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 17:48 PMWingZero

I say increase the cost of the Rak just a bit to compensate. The 2 Rak strategy is too good vs mediums for 270MP a piece.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 17:31 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Yup, at vet 0:

M1: 2.1-2.4 sec
Pak40: 3.5-4.1 sec
Rak: 3.8-4.3 sec

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 19:01 PMVipper

Pak vet 0 4.86
Pak vet 3 3.46
RW vet 0 4.99
RW vet 3 3.98

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 19:32 PMSkysTheLimit

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Thx Vipper, these numbers actually represent time between shots which includes more than reload. I wasn't considering all that before but the Rak is still slower than Pak

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 20:02 PMLago

The Raketenwerfer is a little good for what you pay for now. 55m isn't that big a disadvantage over 60m, and the 5 man squad's done wonders for its survivability. Throw retreat on top of that, and you've got a really good AT unit.

It could stand to be 320 MP like the other ATGs now.

Jump back to quoted post24 Feb 2020, 19:12 PMIncendiaryRounds

In 1v1, you're basically not allowed to use stock mediums against OKW. Its already difficult to use stock mediums vs OKW P4, however, the raketens have the RoF of the USF at gun and basically the penetration of a pak (only 10 less) and now have almost the same range with an extra crewman and retreat. There's little u can do to counter a raketen. I'd say it's at least as survivable as the Zis now. I think a slight pen nerf is in order

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2020, 20:02 PMLago

The Raketenwerfer is a little good for what you pay for now. 55m isn't that big a disadvantage over 60m, and the 5 man squad's done wonders for its survivability. Throw retreat on top of that, and you've got a really good AT unit.

It could stand to be 320 MP like the other ATGs now.