[DBP] Cons plus sniper

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2017, 21:44 PMFinndeed

Cons arent OP, soviets are.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2017, 08:09 AM__deleted__

Soviets arent OP, the map favours sniper AF.

There is no way how to hide or flank sniper on this map. Try using sniper on a different map like Faymonville.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2017, 08:12 AMSturmpanther

Joke i hope?!

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2017, 08:16 AMSturmpanther

For me crossroads have more hedges in the middle and 2 house to hide.
For snipers:
like minks, crossing in the woods, halbe, road to kharov and YOUR Faymonville

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2017, 08:21 AM__deleted__

In faymonville you can hide behind many hedges and garrisons. There is a sight blocker almost everywhere. Also map is more divided into section to ambushing sniper that chosen to switch a side is generally easier.


I do not argue that soviets 8f soviets are OP. I argue because saying soviets are op because of sniper favoured map is a bad argument IMO.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2017, 09:39 AMFinndeed

I seem to remember Thoedosious beating Luvnest's OST when he was using two snipers vs USF on this map.

Sniper can work on this map indeed, but i think its more the case that La Gleize (a map i always veto) and Kholodny are very bad for snipers, rather than this one very good.

I left an unqualified lazy statement as the opening post coz it was late and i was tired. But, to expand: my worry is that by making cons more effective in combat, you make countering the sniper much, much harder. At the moment you can dodge Penal satchels with a P2 or 222 to chase down a sniper. With Cons, being both combat effective and having Oorah AND AT nades makes countering snipers only possible if your opponent makes a grave mistake.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2017, 09:39 AMFinndeed

I seem to remember Thoedosious beating Luvnest's OST when he was using two snipers vs USF on this map.

Sniper can work on this map indeed, but i think its more the case that La Gleize (a map i always veto) and Kholodny are very bad for snipers, rather than this one very good.

I left an unqualified lazy statement as the opening post coz it was late and i was tired. But, to expand: my worry is that by making cons more effective in combat, you make countering the sniper much, much harder. At the moment you can dodge Penal satchels with a P2 or 222 to chase down a sniper. With Cons, being both combat effective and having Oorah AND AT nades makes countering snipers only possible if your opponent makes a grave mistake.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2017, 09:50 AM__deleted__

+1 but the same apply to OST sniper against USF. OST sniper can even survive a direct mortar shot ...

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2017, 11:23 AMFinndeed

But, grens are comparatively weak in the face of USF infantry, which is the only Allied faction that doesn't have a sniper. Imagine how impossibly overpowered the gren/sniper combo would be if grens could effectively 1v1 Rifles?