S73v0(SU) vs Xelor(OH)
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6th June 2013, 03:01 AM
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6 Jun 2013, 03:01 AM
#1
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A fairly good game, I wasn't trying particularly hard or anything. But this replay demonstrates how OP this strat is on this map. Just SU-85s counter all axis armour and panthers are so expensive. Also wtf SU-76s have no cost for barrage?! I'm still trying to find a counter to this as Ostheer.
6 Jun 2013, 12:01 PM
#2
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Fairly good game but little bit one-sided in term of army size eventho Xelor afforded to hold a decent map control all game long. You both played quite well early game, and I liked ur 3 conscripts to penalflame in Scoutcare that really hurted his 3 mgs play.
I played Xelor and I think he is a good player but the T1-T3 strategy just doesnt work atm, as there isnt any stormtrooper-like units call-in general to complete it and use ur manpower effectively, even with an extended T1. So he got a fairly quick Ostwind that did some dmg before dyiing but then was lacking of fuel to use his T3 and anyway u had SU85 ready at this time. So he had to back tech T2 for grens and Pak but then u had Su76/Kaytu so he could not really compete.
Tbh, if u went for mass T34 u would have crushed him much more quickly as he lacked of any anti-tank capabilities before long (when he eventually got T2) and didnt have enough fuel to get a chained Stugs
I played Xelor and I think he is a good player but the T1-T3 strategy just doesnt work atm, as there isnt any stormtrooper-like units call-in general to complete it and use ur manpower effectively, even with an extended T1. So he got a fairly quick Ostwind that did some dmg before dyiing but then was lacking of fuel to use his T3 and anyway u had SU85 ready at this time. So he had to back tech T2 for grens and Pak but then u had Su76/Kaytu so he could not really compete.
Tbh, if u went for mass T34 u would have crushed him much more quickly as he lacked of any anti-tank capabilities before long (when he eventually got T2) and didnt have enough fuel to get a chained Stugs
6 Jun 2013, 14:19 PM
#3
Posts: 522
Yeah usually I go T3 and spam some T34s to put the nail in the coffin as SU if I'm dominating. But here I was trying out a strat which I found difficult to deal with as ostheer on this map. Getting SU-76 to bombard all the infantry and eventually 2 SU-85s to counter all the tanks. There's nothing Ostheer has that hard counters this.
Though yeah rushing T3 for Xelor was a mistake, though it allowed him to afford an extended T1 with lots of mgs that held him the map for along time. Since I wasn't going for T3 my tank destroyers were having difficulty at dislodging the mg crews. Bombardment from the SU-76 helped alot though.
Though yeah rushing T3 for Xelor was a mistake, though it allowed him to afford an extended T1 with lots of mgs that held him the map for along time. Since I wasn't going for T3 my tank destroyers were having difficulty at dislodging the mg crews. Bombardment from the SU-76 helped alot though.
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