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Lemon&Ciez - Super Intense 2v2

by CieZ 21st April 2015, 19:43 PM
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  • [00:38:21] [NS] T?Me: lemon and his pak spam
  • [00:38:22] [NS] T?Me: jesus
  • [00:38:31] L E M O N ?: how else am i supposed to kill is2s
  • [00:38:38] [NS] T?Me: no idea
  • [00:38:43] [NS] T?Me: but obviouslty with 4 paks
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21 Apr 2015, 19:43 PM
#1
avatar of CieZ

Posts: 1468 | Subs: 4

Very intense 2v2 game on Rails and Metal.

Definitely down to the wire!

Featuring:

*Good early game allied aggression.
*Command P4 doing work.
*Ostheer T3 holding the line.
*Many dead Volks.
*A sea of T34/85s and Is-2s
*Last but not least, a KT.

GGWP to our opponents.
21 Apr 2015, 20:17 PM
#2
avatar of Smaug

Posts: 366

mixed axis winning on rails and metal is not very surprising.
21 Apr 2015, 20:37 PM
#3
avatar of TüMe

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PLZ god nerf pak40 :foreveralone:

anyways, gg wp
21 Apr 2015, 21:21 PM
#4
avatar of CieZ

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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Apr 2015, 20:17 PMSmaug
mixed axis winning on rails and metal is not very surprising.


Doesn't prevent it from being a good game...
22 Apr 2015, 01:54 AM
#5
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Should had salvage those Panthers. The KT, or even the P2, arriving earlier would had give you guys an easier game.
22 Apr 2015, 01:58 AM
#6
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ciez back? next patch gonna be gud?
22 Apr 2015, 07:38 AM
#7
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Apr 2015, 20:37 PMTüMe
PLZ god nerf pak40 :foreveralone:

anyways, gg wp


Not sure if sarcasm or sincere considering your in-game chat.
22 Apr 2015, 10:18 AM
#8
avatar of Purlictor

Posts: 393

Both sides at times played rather poorly, nice comeback in the mid game by the soviets though.
22 Apr 2015, 11:06 AM
#9
avatar of TüMe

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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Apr 2015, 07:38 AMRMMLz


Not sure if sarcasm or sincere considering your in-game chat.




Not sarcasm :snfBarton: its just so stupid that with pak40 wall u dont even need frekin commander for ostheer at late game.
22 Apr 2015, 14:49 PM
#10
avatar of CieZ

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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Apr 2015, 01:58 AMpigsoup
ciez back? next patch gonna be gud?


#NDA lol

This parch is good though. Probably the best balance we've had.
22 Apr 2015, 16:09 PM
#11
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Apr 2015, 11:06 AMTüMe




Not sarcasm :snfBarton: its just so stupid that with pak40 wall u dont even need frekin commander for ostheer at late game.


Isn't the whole call- in meta and Cons to IS2 stupid? If the PAK is nerfed, Ostheer can't deal with IS2s. Don't wanna argue balance here but at the current state PAK40 is the most viable option.
22 Apr 2015, 17:47 PM
#12
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Apr 2015, 16:09 PMRMMLz


Isn't the whole call- in meta and Cons to IS2 stupid? If the PAK is nerfed, Ostheer can't deal with IS2s. Don't wanna argue balance here but at the current state PAK40 is the most viable option.



In fact ( idont wanna argue either) goin for gren spam and call in tiger , seems more legit. how soviet can deal with tiger without Zis and ostheer cant IS2, bcoz too op ? there is less cheesy option, goin for t4 and panthers, instead of couple panzers and pak wall. :snfBarton:

You know, there is somethings that are just cheesy (for example spam pak40), just A command ur pak blob and there is nooo point which commander you have. it doesnt matter if its infantry support, call in tank, artillery. okay if katysha was buffrd , just to controll that pak wall, then its cool to me that enemy have 10 paks if he likes.

I dont see lemon breaking meta when he has 4 paks. bcoz its pak :)
22 Apr 2015, 17:53 PM
#13
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Apr 2015, 17:47 PMTüMe



In fact ( idont wanna argue either) goin for gren spam and call in tiger , seems more legit. how soviet can deal with tiger without Zis and ostheer cant IS2, bcoz too op ? there is less cheesy option, goin for t4 and panthers, instead of couple panzers and pak wall. :snfBarton:

You know, there is somethings that are just cheesy (for example spam pak40), just A command ur pak blob and there is nooo point which commander you have. it doesnt matter if its infantry support, call in tank, artillery. okay if katysha was buffrd , just to controll that pak wall, then its cool to me that enemy have 10 paks if he likes.

I dont see lemon breaking meta when he has 4 paks. bcoz its pak :)


Well game is pretty much based on cheese these days, and each player chooses the the best cost efficient way to win, Sovs do spam to call in, Ost uses PAK spam, USF spams rifles to jax, and OKW spams volks then KT. Cheese versus cheese I guess.

And about the meta, when I read the title I thought it's gonna be like P4 spam, like 4 P4s and shit, but yea it was PAK spam :D

The game was close though, GG and WP to all 4 of you. looking forward to future replays.
22 Apr 2015, 19:46 PM
#14
avatar of CieZ

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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Apr 2015, 17:47 PMTüMe



In fact ( idont wanna argue either) goin for gren spam and call in tiger , seems more legit. how soviet can deal with tiger without Zis and ostheer cant IS2, bcoz too op ? there is less cheesy option, goin for t4 and panthers, instead of couple panzers and pak wall. :snfBarton:

You know, there is somethings that are just cheesy (for example spam pak40), just A command ur pak blob and there is nooo point which commander you have. it doesnt matter if its infantry support, call in tank, artillery. okay if katysha was buffrd , just to controll that pak wall, then its cool to me that enemy have 10 paks if he likes.

I dont see lemon breaking meta when he has 4 paks. bcoz its pak :)


I don't remember the last time I've seen a p4 command tank in a 2v2 and even normal p4s are a rarity. When was the last time any ost player other than lemon opened double mg into double flamer pios?

If he had spammed Panthers or tigers wouldn't you just complain about that instead? Or if he went elefant would you cry about the ele being uncounterable for soviet?

Sure felt like a different game on lemons part than the normal lmg gren blob into stug e into tigers that most people do these days. Feels like you're fishing for stuff to complain about honestly.
22 Apr 2015, 19:48 PM
#15
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Apr 2015, 17:53 PMRMMLz


Well game is pretty much based on cheese these days, and each player chooses the the best cost efficient way to win, Sovs do spam to call in, Ost uses PAK spam, USF spams rifles to jax, and OKW spams volks then KT. Cheese versus cheese I guess.

And about the meta, when I read the title I thought it's gonna be like P4 spam, like 4 P4s and shit, but yea it was PAK spam :D

The game was close though, GG and WP to all 4 of you. looking forward to future replays.




Yes this was very good game in the end. But im not crying anythig about elephant, its easier to counter than pak wall ;) @Ciez
22 Apr 2015, 21:58 PM
#16
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You beat paks by using katyushas and timing pushes in conjunction with barrages.
22 Apr 2015, 22:09 PM
#17
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Yea, the soviets got too caught up in spamming tanks to remember they can tech to things. Another Katy instead of the 2nd IS2 would have been much better. With the abundance of indirect fire Allies have, PAK spam should be the least of your worries.
23 Apr 2015, 06:14 AM
#18
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Apr 2015, 22:09 PMBudwise
Yea, the soviets got too caught up in spamming tanks to remember they can tech to things. Another Katy instead of the 2nd IS2 would have been much better. With the abundance of indirect fire Allies have, PAK spam should be the least of your worries.

Actually even the katy he had was the most useless katy i ve ever seen. Instead of firing at OKW t2 when all the inf retreated he was firing at p4s. Seriously... its a 2v2 its meant to be a teamgame
23 Apr 2015, 11:18 AM
#19
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Actually even the katy he had was the most useless katy i ve ever seen. Instead of firing at OKW t2 when all the inf retreated he was firing at p4s. Seriously... its a 2v2 its meant to be a teamgame




Whoa ! did u see where dat t2 building was ? so far that i barely could shoot it at max range, which is same as useless. im not map hacking so sometimes its hard to say where did katy hit, mainly i tried to hit on paks, if it went on pivs then it went, but that wasnt my meaning LOL. are you being stupid here or what ? :foreveralone:
23 Apr 2015, 15:33 PM
#20
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Posts: 32

Shut yer mouth Tüme!! :) GG, was rather poor play on both sides imo, stupid rushes etc.
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