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cohbros/ ISU IS BASED GOD

by Ohme 10th May 2014, 03:44 AM
10 May 2014, 05:44 AM
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This game was pretty silly. Went up against the #1 4v4 team, and gave them their 2nd ever loss as German (we also gave them their first loss previously).

How to deal with late game Tigers, Elefants, Paks, and Panthers? Spam ISU of course. At one point we had 7 ISU's on the field just blowing everything up.

Our enemy said "Just spam ISUs and you dont even need to play the game yourself" and I think he was right.
10 May 2014, 05:46 AM
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too right mr. president

fuck rng god!
ISU-152 is the new god.
10 May 2014, 06:20 AM
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Yea..what a game, 152 spam is op, those German soilders were the real heroes, not afraid even when they knew those 152s were on the other side squad wiping like on steroid. We lost the first game due to 152 spam also tho.
10 May 2014, 06:28 AM
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yay relic , more super tanks , isu ace , elef ace ,tiger ace , is2 ace and super long range arties and game gonna ballance itself !

Btw : why no elefant spam ?
10 May 2014, 06:35 AM
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yay relic , more super tanks , isu ace , elef ace ,tiger ace , is2 ace and super long range arties and game gonna ballance itself !

Btw : why no elefant spam ?

if elefant spam,we are just occupying popcap and manpower upkeep with so few disadvanatges vs those shocks and guards. ISU counters anythings, from inf,to tanks and to even planes with those MG gunners.
so isu spam works.
and theres hardly any flanking routes in that map for panthers,p4s and tigers. isu+mines combo and the game becomes all on long range domination and isu is best at that as it counters anything
10 May 2014, 07:34 AM
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It is more matter of worthless tigers (which done something only because Soviets were too lazy to protect flank with mines) and strange decision to make panthers instead of elefants by elefant player. Pak's 43 cant kill even single correctly played ISU on it own, but a pair of vetted elefants supported by them could make wonders.
I am not saying ISU's shouldn't be nerfed back in terms of At/and or survivability, but you guys could won this game.


10 May 2014, 11:32 AM
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The first game had only 1 isu commander and no more than 2 ISU's on the field, that isn't spam.
10 May 2014, 11:51 AM
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You guys are top ranked in both soviets and germans. You were matched up against another fixed team and not just any team, the team who have beaten you before. Yet you still decide to go against them with only 1 guy with elephants.

Unless you were sleeping when the match was loading, you'd be able to anticipate that they'd go for ISU's against you by simply looking at their available commanders. ISU's wipe squads but they are not Gods that can't be beaten.

Sending your troops to their deaths isn't the only way to scout out the enemy you know. That's what recon planes are for. You did use them but you didn't capitalize on your intel. So many times you could have easily won and so many times you had the advantage but in the end, their teamwork proved better and were able to amass heavy tanks. Russians don't click on the ISU button and 7 pop out. You had ample time to take it out before the next one appeared.
11 May 2014, 06:45 AM
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As powerful as the ISU is, in an equal game elefant spam would beat the ISU spam. Its lame as hell that either of these units be 100% required for top tier 4v4, and even worse that spamming them is a huge advantage unless the other one spams in response.

The ISU squad wiping is no joke, and this gives it a significant bonus. At long range this thing does miss quite frequently against infantry and attack ground.

I'm really not sure what would fix the ISU vs Elefant meta.
11 May 2014, 19:23 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 May 2014, 11:51 AMMVwhine
You guys are top ranked in both soviets and germans. You were matched up against another fixed team and not just any team, the team who have beaten you before. Yet you still decide to go against them with only 1 guy with elephants.

Unless you were sleeping when the match was loading, you'd be able to anticipate that they'd go for ISU's against you by simply looking at their available commanders. ISU's wipe squads but they are not Gods that can't be beaten.

Sending your troops to their deaths isn't the only way to scout out the enemy you know. That's what recon planes are for. You did use them but you didn't capitalize on your intel. So many times you could have easily won and so many times you had the advantage but in the end, their teamwork proved better and were able to amass heavy tanks. Russians don't click on the ISU button and 7 pop out. You had ample time to take it out before the next one appeared.


the funny thing is, we didnt even coordinate. 5 min into the game, i was like 'who went what? i went isu'. then two other bros are like 'me, too'. lolz
11 May 2014, 21:43 PM
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I did not stop, and will continue to always hate cohbros. or relic for putting fixed teams against randoms.
11 May 2014, 23:08 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 May 2014, 21:43 PM1[][]
I did not stop, and will continue to always hate cohbros. or relic for putting fixed teams against randoms.


Don't hate bro :(
12 May 2014, 08:49 AM
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I dont see the point of using Tigers against ISUs. Ferdi + panthers could be more usefull. ferdi is for direct hit, panthers for flanking. Tiger is too slow against ISU's range
12 May 2014, 13:48 PM
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elephants eat isu for breakfast, lunch and dinner!
12 May 2014, 13:54 PM
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and tbh i'm much warried about good m3 micro then the isu
12 May 2014, 13:59 PM
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and damn to counter mg spam u are almost forced picking mht doctrine
12 May 2014, 14:13 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 May 2014, 05:44 AMOhme
At one point we had 7 ISU's on the field just blowing everything up.

Our enemy said "Just spam ISUs and you dont even need to play the game yourself" and I think he was right.


LOL. Pretty much this.

Relic? :snfPeter:
12 May 2014, 17:11 PM
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Dang bros. That is some serious hardware.
13 May 2014, 04:27 AM
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ISUs and Elephants need a range nerf then they should be relatively balanced. But right now all Rus need to do is spam ISUs... Ele are not an effective enough counter. It's very hard to have fun playing team games atm.
13 May 2014, 07:49 AM
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somehow elef is better but require more micro than isu ...
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