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Relic really tried too hard to implement the whole "quality vs quantity" for soviets.
What we have now is the complete collapse of the soviet faction as a whole.
The support weapon becomes the main line infantry, and the main line infantry becomes the support weapon....
Back in coh 1, ALL sides, no exceptions, had decent - well scaling infantry.
USA - rifles with BARS, altho mediocre at late game without vet, if you managed to get some vet 2 vet 3 rifles they were terminators.
Wehrmacht - grenadiers and KCH
Brits- Infantry section
PE - Panzergrenadiers.
Now in coh 2, all sides have "decent" non doctrinal inf , except SOVIETS.
And even then, the best soviet infantry - gaurds with DP, are on par with LMG grens - the starting wehrmacht infantry..
Tbh, i don't see the problem with making conscripts and penals scale better, at the cost of soviet snipers basically being a copy of the wehrmacht sniper, that way soviet snipers have more killing power, but are also more fragile due to higher DPs. And maxims that function more like normal machine guns instead of mainline infantry.
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fun fact : a single combat engineer rifle does slightly more damage than a conscript rifle at long range. |
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It's false that germans are more popular than allies in all ww2 games. Look at war thunder, devs said that allies are 3x or 4x more popular there than axis. |
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the su-85 performance wise is fine in my opinion.
What kills it is the complete inflexibility of soviet T4.
su-85 good
katy -bad in 1v1
su-76 useless
Because most soviet call ins are also inflexible (very expensive) except for kv-1 and advanced warfare t-34/85
this means,that if you go T4, you pretty much get NO reliable anti infantry, and because soviet late game inf is inferior to axis late game inf, this makes it extremelly innefective unless you go counterattack tactics or advanced warfare.
Backed up by kv-1s or t-34/85s from advanced warfare su-85s perform quite well.
So in my opinion, the way to fix it is make the su-76 direct fire good againt's infantry. And decrease the cooldown of katyusha to say 70 or 80 seconds (and panzerwerfer too).
This is not true for OKW because their late game infantry is amazing and they don't need tanks to deal with infantry, that alone makes jagpanzer better,altho the lack of fausts also hampers it's effectiveness somewhat. |
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I say give back elefant,isu and jagdtiger old ranges.Make Cp 13-14.
Only 1 buildable...it'll be the superunitS of old.But it will come later than now,and if u lose it ur done.
Plz No 100 range units.
The way to fix it, is bring back the way tanks worked in coh 1. For example, the sherman or cromwell would consistently kill 1 guy per shot, it rarely missed, and it rarely killed more than 1.
Something like that could be implemented in coh 2.
Pz IV, t-34 , tiger - 1 guy per shot
IS-2 - 2-3 guys per shot
Isu-152 - 99% of the time 3 guys per shot.
Or something like that, if you remember in coh 1, the sherman practically never missed and killed 1 guy per shot. Consistently. That's what id like to see in coh 2. Consistensy. |
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Probaly my most enjoyable game ever.
Basically i was playing soviets 1v1 with the defensive community tactics, he was stalling for a king tiger, suceeded, but then i managed to defeat the king tiger using mines + democharges and then flanked it with t-34/76s.
Amazing, almost 1 hour long game..
gg wp.
Also, the achilles heel of defensive community tactics, NO WHERE TO SPEND MUNITIONS EVER. |
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Everything is cost innefective againts OKW.
Going T2 maxims + shocks or gaurds + zis is by far the best (and probaly the only viable) strategy vs OKW at the moment. That or barton strat |
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I remember i once had a -8 streaks as soviets, It's not that i was playing bad, it's just that for like 7 games i was playing like the top 50 over and over again. So i had a -7 streak. Then i thought to myself, OKAY TIME TO END THIS, i que up for 1v1 matchmaking, and then i get cataclaw, N.o 1 as ostheer at that time, long story short, my -7 streak became my -8 streak. |
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Facing the isu-152 is similar to facing a tiger or a king tiger with t-34/76s. Tiger in the middle? T-34s on the flanks. Tiger on the left? T-34s on the right. You avoid and be there where the tiger isin't.
Until he overextends and gets engine damage to a mine or at nade and then you unleash your t-34s on the tiger.
This has been the one and only way to deal with tigers as USSR in 1v1s.
You deal with the ISU-152 similllary.
Fighting the tiger head on has always and always will be suicide. Why does fighting the isu-152 head on have to be viable?
Anyways, try to pressure your opponent before he gets the isu-152. |
What you are saying is correct but it doesnt take in account of the german industrial assets already destroyed before Germany switched to wartime economics. According to Speer nearly 80% of all germany's industrial assets where wiped out by 1944. the majority of these assets never ever produced anything related to the war but they could have if they where not destroyed.
Your first statement is a bit weird because germany is the beating industrial and economic heart of Europe. it is now and back then.
A 35% percent decrease in tank production means a 35% percent in tank production, nothing more.
Allied strategic bombing only really ramped up in 1943 and 1944, before then it was rather meagre.
So it only really got going after the most desicive battles - Moscow and Stalingrad, ended.
The most significant allied contribution to the war (aside from the landings in Normandy) was by far the lend lease act to the soviet union.
And yeah, sorry for that brainfart about "germany not being good at economy management" , no idea what happened to me there. |
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