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I made similar topic in soviets strategies cause I had no idea how to counter 3vet grens with MG (still they are pain in the ass...)
This commander is OP and no doubt about that.
Just imagine soviet commander with:
Guards, 120mm mortar, self repair, mark target and IS2/KV2/ISU152.
Well, "soviet elite troops" could be just like that...
Give me such commander and I wont complain about troops training. |
Thread: ISU-15227 Apr 2014, 18:04 PM
Australian Magic there are plenty of "line breaker" Soviet units (SU-76, IS-2, howitzer, skillplanez) and I am starting to get really tired of your vapid responses.
Since when IS2 or howitzer come in the same commander as Isu? Im talking about non doctrinal units. You choose elephant, panter is still there. We choose isu and is2, t34/85 and kvs are gone. Su76 sounds like a joke when compared to brrumbar and panther |
Thread: ISU-15227 Apr 2014, 14:11 PM
You still forget one thing! If we chose ISU we are left with SU85 and T34/76 so we have no backup, no line breaker.
If you choose elephnat you still can bring Panther.
That is why ISU has to be beast - no other late game unit. |
Thread: ISU-15226 Apr 2014, 21:37 PM
And one more thing. Opposite to Tiger/Panther, ISU is not line breaker. Choosing ISU means we have nothing heavy in front. ISU is long range unit and the only close range unit left is... t34/76...
Germans have much better situation because choosing Elephant does not mean lack of heavy mobile tanks. You choose Elephant, Panther is still there. We choose ISU and we are left with T34/76. No T34/85, KV1/2/8, IS2 but t34/76.. |
Thread: ISU-15226 Apr 2014, 20:13 PM
As far as I can tell 3on3 games became boring because of the ISU Buff.
Soviet players spam now every game ISUs while German counterspam elefants. The RNG gods decide who wins.
Strange. Most of my games are 3v3 and 4v4 and the only one who brings ISU is me (a used ISU for a long time before patch).
Still, in my opinion Brrumbar is better AI that ISU (except distance). It hits almost every shot while ISU doesnt. Just finished the game. mg half squad (2), needed 3 shots (2 shots missed target) so dont tell my ISU blows up inf every shot. |
Thread: ISU-15226 Apr 2014, 19:13 PM
ISU can blow up whole squad but it doesnt take place often. I just finished game with ISU and it didnt do that even once. MG from 4 to 2, miss and finish 2 who left. 3 shots for one MG squad. Also it needed 3 shots to deal with ostteruppen squad so dont say that ISU blows up everything in single shot.
Of course, sometimes happens things we saw on this video but it happens really rarely. |
Thread: ISU-15226 Apr 2014, 16:58 PM
You' re complaing to be bound to doctrine if soviets bring ISU?
I say you have nothing to complain. You have great late-game AI and AT units free from doctrine (Brrumbar, Panther, PGrens).
What soviets have? Su85. Sounds like a joke when compare to Panthers, PGrens nad Brrumbar. We need to chose commander which allows us to bring some AI/AT forces. Germans can pick up whatever doctrine they want becasue there be panther and brrumbar always.
Soviet are bind to doctrine. We have to pick up IS2, KV-2 or T34-85 but still they wont handle Panthers/Tigers + PGrens. And there comes ISU which solves most problems with lack of AI or AT power.
In late game germans can easily win by combining Panthers/Tiger and PGrens (sometime even panthers spam is enough) while soviets need to make army of a various units. Now when ISU is buffed we also can make 2-3 units army. Deal with that.
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We even have to chose commander to get AT inf!! |
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I see that german players get used to be OP in everything. OP bliztkrieg, OP late-game units. Now somethings changed for better - better balance, germans lost their OP status in late-game - and almost every1 complain because now it's harder to deal with soviets.
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Bliztkrieg was insane. Panther faster or equal to scout car o.O
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Thread: ISU-15226 Apr 2014, 14:26 PM
Seriously, stop underestimating the glorious elefant. If its used in the right hands, it becomes hell for soviet players.
Give that man a cookie!!
True. Only use it in right way and ISU wont be so OP as you say. You just get used to no counter from soviets in late-game. |
Thread: ISU-15226 Apr 2014, 14:21 PM
@VonMecha - one I played 4v4 as soviets with my mates. German called for elephant. We lost 2x IS-2 and 6x T34-85 to destroy 1 Elephant and 3 Panthers (Panthers went down but Elephant survived due to insane armor). If ISU wasnt buffed, Elephant would be totally invulnerable.
@Imagelessbean - destroy tanks in 2 shots? You definitely exaggerate. Even PzIV can stand more than 2 frontal hits.
And I see you forgot something. Brrumbar hits target almost always. ISU misses often (especially if shooting AI). |
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