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DPS>mobility in almost all cases, unless a weapon does full DPS while on the move because then you open up potential for kiting and flanking. When was the last time a USF player said "I would rather have BARs than M1919s because they can fire on the move?" Practically never.

Not when you are playing agasint USF mortar.


When was a last time? Practically always. 1919 are not better than BARs. They are different.
It all depends on which map do you play, how your opponent plays.

Would you pick 1919 over BARs on La Glieze? I don't think so. On the other hand you have Mink Pocket, perfect map for 1919.
Or think about old Stalingrad. Would you buy BARs or LMGs? Would you upgrade Paras with Thompsons or 1919?

Like I said, DPS is just part on a weapon but higher DPS doesn't mean that the weapon is superior right away.

There is a call-in for all purpose. When was the last time you saw a non call-in commander used in 1v1?

Call-ins are lame in that they let you skip tech and still have an advantage. Sometimes you used that advantage to recover. Othertimes you use that advantage to completely crush your opponent, if they didn't pick a commander without one.

Do I need to explain the advantage that a Tiger call-in gives over somebody that teched to T4 to get a Brummbar?

Relic did it just fine back then, when they put T34/85 or E8 into the main doctrine. Both tanks are cost efficient enough that neither doctrine vanished into thin air. They don't need to reinvent the wheel. They just need to be consistent with all the other doctrines.

It depends what do you mean by this, since for example for Ostheer best commander are best with Tiger. In oter words it's hard to show a doctrine without call in at all and if picked one, its abilities are far worse than the one with call in.

On the other hand, Brummbar has it's own advantage. It's on the field way before Tiger.

I always see it on the same way. Get more expensive but faster tech unit or wait and risk losing trying to get Stug E.

Again, becasue I see no asnwer for this. Do you prefer 5CPs Panzer 4 to crush enemy, or waiting for 7CPs to call 2x Stuge E when enemy already has T34 and second is on a way?

Each way has its pros and cons.

Call ins give great flavour to the game, they make battles epic when you are holding with 3-4 point and then boom ISU hits the field and wrecks enemy (who should have been prepared for it).

Tech units are more expensive but they hit field way sooner - that's their advantage.

Now, tie all call ins to tech and see how this game becomes boring AF, without comebacks from backfoot, without any decisions like "Tech or should I wait 2more CPs? But of so, I'm risking defeat" etc etc.

Remove call ins and see how this games will become more competitive, yes, but also boring (I'm not lookinf for ultra competitive game. Im looking a exciting game)

It's quite simple.

If you are at T2 and have the Mechanised Assault commander, you have 2 options:
- Tech to T3 and buy a P4
- Buy 2 Stug-E's right off the bat

I am not a fuel-fetischist, so I will talk to you in terms of Manpower:
The first option costs 640 manpower
The second option costs 400 manpower(for 2 Stug-E's)
For comparison, the manpower cost of a tiger is also 640.

(the respective fuel costs are 230 and 140)

No-tech call-in cheese is the game's way of letting you buy your first Tiger at at the same cost it would take you to make your first P4.

If you believe that no-tech call-ins somehow enrich the game:
- When was the last time you saw somebody tech T1-to-T4 and actually win a game? How much do you have to outplay your opponent to actually pull this off
- When was the last time you saw somebody shun call-in-free commanders in competitive play?
- You mention comebacks being impossible without no-tech call-ins. Wouldn't light vehicle meta also happen to be the same reason you were knocked out in the first place?

Without the mechanism that will cause such drastic knock-outs, the game no longer requires a mechanism for such drastic come-backs either.

It's not that you can get X call ins for 1 tech unit.

It's more like "I can get Panzer 4 at 4CPs or 2 Stugs E at 7CPs.
So, you prefer more expensive but way earlier Pz4 or cheaper but later Stugs?

Do you prefer 2 M4C Shermans at 10CPs or 2 T34 at 6CPs?
Why people rush for T34/85 instead of waiting for IS2 or M4C Sherman?
Becasue it's all about timing, not the price.

Not sure what do you mean by first question.
Nobody shuns call-in commanders becasue they are safe card.
When you feel game is in your favour you don't pick call ins (Guard Motor as an example).
I don't see any connection between light vehicles and call ins. Sure, you call in Puma or Stuge E to counter T70 or Stuart but it's because of Ostheer has problems in generel with fighting light vehicles. None faction except OST has problems vs light vehicles.

Tie Tiger to T4 and you won't see it ever again in 1v1.

I love how you can pick only one...

It's like choosing between cancer and aids.

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Tho I don't agree with Mr. Smith post there about call ins.

calling in havey tanks that requires all tech is a nail in the coffin for Ostheer, just like calling Stug E.
First fix others problems, not call ins.

Go to strategy desk, not balance section.