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Ofc 250 manpower infantry should beat 280 mp riflemans face to face. Not to mention strumpioneers became cheaper.

Volks should probably be 260, but that's probably it as they only have their rifles for AI while all other line infantry (except poor conscripts) get weapon upgrades and generally get much better survivability bonuses as the game goes on.

DPS comparison with their damage boost

Ranges: 0/10/15/20/25/30/35

Volks: 4.55/3.46/3.037/2.7/2.42/2.07/1.806
Riflemen: 6.76\4.33\3.40\2.80\2.34\1.97\1.67

Of course there various other factors meaning DPS isn't everything like the damage differences between the rifles, ROF, accuracy, etc.

Panther is a mobile tank with excellent anti-infantry and anti-tank. Its not a tank destroyer.

Panther is a tank hunter where it uses it armour and speed to run/wear down other tanks, that's its intended role. People don't buy Panthers for being a generalist and it's AI is hardly excellent unless the squad's in the open and being sprayed by all 3 MGs while the Panther is stationary.

Yes, it's got MGs to fight off infantry, but the vehicle still comes at a premium and one of its actual weakness is its vulnerability against multiple mediums or targets with a high health pool due to its poor DPS. Furthermore, if it misses, you'll really notice it unlike most tanks due to that long reload and average damage. Only thing that has less DPS is probably the Firefly which is a unit that I think needs changes in a thread of its own.

Here's how I rate the Panther:

AI: Medicore
AT: Mediocre-Poor
Health: Above Average
Speed: Excellent
Armour: Excellent

cool patch notes
Jaeger Light Infantry Upgrade
Allowing players to get this upgrade relatively at the same time as the LMG42.

Command point requirements reduced from 3 to 1


does it mean I can buy G43 with 1CP right?

Yes, you can buy G43s at 1CP.

As for the changes, having not played it yet but I would remove OKW's starting fuel or lower it to 10-20 to make the first truck take longer to arrive and make Volks cost slightly more to be around 250-260 given their damage boost. Shrek price should also return to 90.

As for 6 minute Luchs, is it really going to be that scary? I feel the Luchs hardly performs what it used to be when it got changed to rely on accuracy rather than scatter. Axis had to deal with fast Quads, T-70s, and Stuarts with the later two capable of demolishing their light armour. Captain Tech already hardcounter it/wards it off, Brits got mines, very early ATGs and maybe it'd be time to invest in the AEC(and possibly make it easier to obtain), Soviet T2, Mines and Cons AT Nades are also here and a fast T3 can ward off all the mech truck units unless it's a flanking Puma, but then it's not a Luchs anymore.

Jesus Christ guys, USF can only build Riflemen while Wehrmacht give you an option to build T0 MG-42 and Grens. Combined Arms is they key in winning engagements.

And does USF really need much else in the early game for the first 3-4 minutes except maybe a T1 mortar which could be added? You can also got another RE for even more capping which really helps USF rush out their tech. Rifles keep the enemy contained while your RE do all the capping. Besides the topic is about Riflemen Vet 3, not the early game.

It's easy to say "Use combined arms" but that's not the problem. And I really don't buy the idea of "It costs more so it should get better veterancy then X unit". No, each unit should have its veterancy made specifically for it that allows the unit to scale and be better at its intended role. Said veterancy should also not break things. Everyone remembers terminator Volks and how much hate they got. That should show no infantry unit, especially base infantry unit, should be near invulnerable to small-arms, especially when they have 5+ men. I'd honestly modify Ober vet to be a little less ridiculous at vet 4+ to be honest as that's how insane they are. Conscripts can get away with being hard to kill as they don't have much firepower and instead rely utility and being meatshields.

The main issue here with Riflemen is how high their received accuracy is and probably Rifle Company as it makes for a very stupidly durable flamethrower squad which is a big no-no, though that's a different topic.

Here's what Rifles get for survivability:

(0.97 Base x 0.77 vet 2) x 0.8 vet 3 = 0.5975 (round up?)

Hopefully got the calculations right, but that is pretty high for a base unit with good firepower. I would tone it down a tad more to maybe 10-15%. Or we could find more interesting options like reinforce cost, ability cost or other thing locked into their vet.

At first I heard t from the fusiliers squad chatter that the honor guards are fanatics etc, killers etc. Then I thought, that the units that fusiliers was talking about is the obers, because what else would they be referring to as that is the OKW most 'elite' unit in the game and their chatter is quite ... I say closest to be fanatical. But then I watch this video :



skip to 7:06 for the Obers unique chatter and they will say that "If our forces was like the Honor Guards, perhaps we won't be in this position". And then now I am confused. Are relic supposed to have another type of unit planned but didnt released or abandon them?

Sorry if this question seemed dumb or already been discussed and cleared before.

Honour Guard are Obers. There're most likely referring that all units should be like them. Their sound file is also called honour guard.