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yeah right... cons get supressed by half a burst from a MG42 and stay supressed for 30 seconds or more, while volks would get from pinned to normal state before you could even reposition the pre nerf maxim.

Suppression and Pinning

Rifleman Squad:

Suppressed Threshold: 0.2
Suppressed Recovery: 0.15
Pinned Threshold: 0.6
Pinned Recovery:0.5

Conscript Squad:

Suppressed Threshold: 0.2
Suppressed Recovery: 0.15
Pinned Threshold: 0.6
Pinned Recovery:0.5

Volksgrenadier:

Suppressed Threshold: 0.2
Suppressed Recovery: 0.15
Pinned Threshold: 0.6
Pinned Recovery:0.5

Almost no infantry is different in terms of thresholds. Even Obers are the same as standard infantry in terms of their suppressed modifiers. Note, range also heavily affects suppression, the deeper you go into an MGs arc, the more suppression and DPS you will take.

If DShka were to be changed, I think maybe just suppression could be toned down so it's not a 1-2 burst pin or it just deals worse vs units in cover so you can actually take shelter vs its very high modifiers.

So after watching so many luchs and 222s managing to escape with literally no health left, I decided to take a look on cheatmode. And I confirmed that AT rifles don't kill vehicles when they hit 0 hp.

Basically that means that a Luchs that has 400 hp needs to take 11 shots of PTRS to die because 10 leave them at 0 and that don't trigger the death

This applies to all AT weapons at the moment due to a flag being set to false rather than true, so all Zooks, PIATs, AT Rifles and Schrecks do not kill if the target lands exactly at 0.

So you are saying that it's still better to be stopped when engaging infantry, but it is a totally separate value than what I brought up in the OP?

That is correct. Outside the extremely small chance of a tank rolling to hit someone, scatter as no correlation with accuracy.

When you loose a soviet sniper model , su is down 180 mp.

When you loose ost sniper, ost is down 360 mp.

I wonder which is better?

It's 90mp, but the Soviet sniper is also easier to kill per models -especially since axis are generally better at range than allies- and can be AOE'd by any 80 damage source while having worse cloak and aim-times. The only thing it has going for it is two models.

Hey everyone, I thought I would make this topic and poll to get a gauge on how the Maxim feels with the recent changes since it's a major changes to Soviet T2.

We did a lot of changes to try and get it to work as an ACTUAL machine gun rather than an a-move weapon that scaled off late game which could not hold/defend territory. We're hoping we can get it right so the weapon serves as a support weapon. And yes I know, the Maxim does not have great infantry to support it, but that's another discussion for another day.

To re-iterate what has changed, here are the notes courtesy of Mr. Smith and his organization:

Maxim

Arc of fire increased from 60 degrees to 90 degrees (other MGs have 90-120 degrees)
Setup time from 2 to 3 (other MGs have 3)
Burst duration from 2.25 to 4.5
Damage reduced from 4 to 3 (the DPS of the Maxim remains the same)
Tracking speed from 35 to 28
Reinforcement cost of initial crew from 15 to 20
Sprint removed from Vet1
Sustained fire ability added at Vet1

Suppression changes:
Suppression reduced from 0.00015909 to 0.00006
Suppression versus light cover from 0.5 to 0.75
Suppression versus heavy cover from 0.1 to 0.2
Suppression vs suppressed targets increased from 0.5 to 0.65
Nearby suppression modifier from 0.8 to 1.25
Nearby suppression radius increased from 10 to 13

Sustained fire:
Increases burst length duration by x2
Reduces reload time by 0.5 (multiplicative)
Reduces cooldown time by 0.5 (multiplicative)
Forces a reload at the beginning of the ability
Cancels (with no refund) if the Maxim moves
30 second duration
50 seconds cooldown
Costs 15 munitions