Profile of van Voort

47 Grenadier and Conscripts knew how to make fire. However when selected for elite training as Guards, Shocks or PanzerGrenadiers they forgot

A better way to put this:

Why do you want more Commanders?


To improve your chances of winning? [Dons asbestos suit}

To give different experiences?

To give different strategies?


All of those have different answers?

I'm not sure I entirely believe that, because massive tank battles and huge airstrikes/artillery will be doing far more damage than early infantry battles yet the meter doesn't zip up fast

So far this is one of the rarest 4 achievments

BLITZKRIEG
Deploy 50 Mechanized Assault Groups and 50 Mechanized Grenadier Groups

So, for those of us who are completists or creative and don't want to dismiss anything as useless, what can we do with them?


Both of them are 520 Mp and 40 Fuel and give you an infantry squad in a 250


Mech Assault Group
PGrens in a 250

Mechanised Gren Group
Grens with an LMG in a 250



The Mech Assault group comes in the Mechanised Assault Doctrine:

0 CP AGrens
3 CP Mech Assault Group
5 CP Stug E
8 CP Light Artillery Barrage
10CP Tiger

Specifically this a doctrine that I understand if for limited or no teching, though that's not often viable.

I suppose you can put Shreks on the PGrens and use it kill armour while it's being distracted, but that's a big investement in a vulnerable unit

Or you can just take the PGrens out and use this call in in lieu of T2.


The Mech Gren Group comes in Mechanised Doctrine

3CP Mech Gren Group
4CP Smoke Bombs
5CP Scope
8CP leFH 18 Artillery
8CP Command Tank

It's interesting to note here you are paying MP and Fuel but getting something that costs muntions as the Grens come with LMGs


Both of these look like an Ost clown car, but both come too late to act as one. By the time 3CP comes there are plenty of things that can kill them and the time for swift capping is done.

I have used both in late game where infantry is depleted and a mobile capping unit can fill gaps, that works.

They may also way to move a capping squad that is semi-resistant to shocks.


Thinking if there is anything more.


The 250 itself is underwhelming, it doesn't seem to have any guns, and has an implied cost of 140 MP / 40 Fuel or so


In both cases I have considered doing the following:

Call in the Unit, take the infantry out and use it elsewhere.

The 250 can then either be used as an expendable scout/distraction

Or, you can put a Pioneer in it and use it as a capper (possiblty with flames)



What does anybody else think of these?

See also:

http://www.coh2.org/guides/9645/overwhelming-osttruppen