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I think it's a matter of cost. If it was 150 60 i think people would buy it. Now people will just use the new medics.

this sounds like a bad joke.. as if instant surpression MGs and aimbot mortars still need any kind of buff..

I think you are not up to date, cause aimbot mortars are no longer a thing and if you are not using barrage constantly they perform piss poorly.

Which is why i don't suggest buffs which improve their dmg output at all.

In the same vein, MGs performance early game is fine, but once you start to use artillery or the game drags on for a long time, light cover just makes pushing MGs frontally too easy.

The maxim is the most affected by these, because it has the worst time to suppress of them all and light cover just duplicates that time.


I don't know how many times it has to be said: MGs teleporting on death is by design. We can't change behaviour of the maxim on retreat, so it doesn't matter how many times people complain, buffs to maxim have to come from a different approach.

I agree that target tables are a poor idea, though, they make things far less readable. There's no logic behind your AT gun being inexplicably worse against certain targets, and it doesn't "feel" right to people.

That's also something to account for. Even if a change is OBJECTIVELY better, human psychology weights more the lost rather than the gain of something.

And then you thread a thin line between what its right or not. Why AT infantry or a flame grenades destroy faster than an AT gun for example.

You can just get an extra unit instead of bolster.

That doesn't work due to how the popcap system works.

Popcap for infantry is squad pop value + 1 per model. Regardless of cost of the upgrade, it will always be more efficient to get 4 squads of IS with Bolster than 5 squads of IS without it.

And this doesn't even account for RE.


If we account for either pyro/medic (now even the raid upgrade) on top of the weapon system things gets even uglier.

The problem has always been 5 man IS with either squad upgrade, grenade unlocked and double weapons been over the top. But to achieve that, you need to spend an unholy amount of resources and you will only see it when at really late stage of the games or as a consequence of a snowball effect.
In regards to the weapon system, i think the issue is that the Bren was nerfed in the wrong direction. A single Bren doesn't cut it and if we account for the penalties out of cover affecting way more the performance of LMGs than their base rifle, you would rather have an extra model of IS rather than a 4man squad with a single Bren.

Finally, vet. It was the initial general design that UKF would get worst vet bonuses on their infantry, so their scaling is more tied to those upgrades. If you check, you would see that the bonuses are inferior to all other factions main line bonuses. Reminder that they had their scoped lee enfields at vet 3 removed, cause the execution of it was extremely poor (they increased the likehood of dropping weapons and, at first, they even reduced the DPS of the unit compared to vanilla rifles). Even after it was fixed it was barely an improvement.


TL;DR: Bolster is problematic because it's the more visible and worst component of a whole system which is flawed.
If you asked me what makes IS hard to balance it is in order:

Bolster >> Weapon upgrade >>>> Squad Upgrade >> Sandbag > Vet > Trench > Grenade >>> Millbomb

They overlap because at some moments the various balance teams make them overlap.

Pakhowi was at the beginning an almost only barrage unit and Scott an almost only auto-fire unit. Then the various balance teams decided to made them more similar.

Buff the pakhowi barrage and remove its auto-fire, do the opposite for the Scott and you have two different units. You have the pakhowi be like a mix between rocket arty and field Arty in its purpose and scott a lighter brumbar.

While i agree with the proposed changes, the pak howie was not a "barrage" unit. For example, HEAT shells replace the autofire normal mode. Barrage has always been horrendous since release, because the amount of shells was piss poor despite the range.

The unit was oppressive with vet and due to it gaining range on auto fire. Specially when they give it suppression.