Why are you comparing to "normal german t1" when we are specifically discussing abnormal and Commander exclusive Osty play, that is FUNDAMENTALLY different from normal builds?
Ok, so I can't compare anything with anything because they're fundamentally different.
Maxims are no slower to thr field against Osties, than they are vs conventional builds. In fact they are laterally faster, owing to the relativeo slower map progression of Osty builds, due to the 50% cap time.
Should I point out that you have 4 squads (1 pioneer, 3 osttrup) capping by the time the first grenadier squad would come out? Ie. Even with a 50% reduction in cap speed they'll still cap quite a bit faster than a T1 build. Maybe even 5 squads, not totally sure about the timing of that fourth osttrup squad as I only played a couple of troll games with the commander.
Wat? Maxims are better against mobs than ANY OTHER INFANTRY UNIT SOV HAS!
How can you even state differently, lol?
Again, try playing the game for once and show us how your magnificient HMG usage counters massed infantry. You'll be praised by everyone who still gives a shit in the community.
How is this a "bad" thing in any relevant relation? We are talking about Osty spam here, not T2 vehicle spam.
Well, in case you haven't noticed (oh right, you can't seeing how you don't play), most players using Osttruppen will opt to go for T2 vehicles and PGs extremely quick, or at the very least have the option to do this at any point they so desire (the point where the soviet player decides to make multiple maxims, for example). So yes you might as well expect multiple T2 vehicles whenever you're playing against someone using osttruppen
It goes without saying that Maxims ARE NOT A VEHICLE COUNTER.
That doesnt mean they do not perform their primary crowd control function however.
They're so badly countered by vehicles that you're forced to babysit them with one or more conscript squads at all times. You don't think there's a problem with having to keep most of your units together while facing an opponent with far more squads and map control than you?
A Maxim limits its own impact in terms of manpower control it has?
There's no difference in suppression received for units. You can suppress PGs in the exact same time as it takes to suppress osttruppen. As such the HMGs are far more efficient MP wise when firing at more expensive units.
Yet another contrived argument. Trying to present the ADVANTAGE Maxims have vs Osties, as if it was somehow a negative facet by phrasing in an inverted form.
It's an advantage, but hardly one that would counter there being twice as many squads of osttrup on the field as there would be grenadiers.
To offset the rant, some actually useful advice:
Forget about maxims (or lol clown cars as some heroes on Hans stream once told me to build) just make mortars. Preferrably the 120mm kind just because they have a much higher chance of oneshotting osttrups. You'll be slaved to the RNG for your success, but atleast when you get smiled upon by the RNG gods then your opponent will be in for a lot of pain.
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