Profile of Drones200

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need to say any more??

drones200 showing how OP penals are LUL

dude it is my first game in years, watch the whole match lmaoo

I beat him back


Keep watching , im starting new one

first game as soviets in 1 year

I'm not ignoring it, penals and soviet in general might be too strong but sometimes things have to be hard in the game? I dont' agree that every unit should necessarily be a (strong) threat to another - the best game play is where the synergy of things comes into play - the unit, the terrain, the tactics, the support. The new patch seems to encourage fire and manoeuver more. Early game you have volks, sturmpios and maybe a kubel. Between them they pack some punch.

I'm only a weak player but I have both won and lost as soviet recently using Penals. Whats your experience when you use Penals yourself when you play Soviets?

I understand your point m8 but before volks and conscripts were better balanced, it suited the playstyle you speak off.

Volks were punished for letting conscripts, which could come in 2's. close the gap and conscripts were punished for letting volk maintain distance and fire.
Penal does not care, PENAL HAS NO FEAR >: O lol


To answer your question, I never play allies

I generally always win as allies, in my profile, i have more ally wins then germans even though I only play Germans. It has always felt easier to win as allies and I never complain but now it is too much the nerf Axis has received.

I will be playing soviet today, I do not like to abuse strong units..I have been playing for years and I enjoy using combined tactics, fire and maneuver etc. but as it stands Penals are destroying that. When I would play soviet before December patch I would do what you just described and it dint feel cheap, it felt earned. I closed the gap, time the molotov, made the hard choice of going for conscript TOMMY upgrade or guards for anti tank inf, it felt balanced.

Well I will report back, I will be streaming some soviet gameplay today to test it myself, Ive been in the receiving end for too long.

I don't know who came up with those genius change. But OKW right now has the worst basic infantry, the most expensive tech, lowest Price/performance ratio tanks, and the most terrible artillery (ISG is pretty much a stone catapult, and it still got nerfed wtf!!). On the other hand, infantry section, guards and conscript are buffed, how is okw player supposes to win a infantry engagement while volks are significantly overpowered by rifleman and infantry sections. These infantry changes require OKW players to rely more on their light armors, and guess what, Panzer 2 and Stuka also got nerfed. Whoever made this balance pack may just as well add a "free win" bottom to Allied players screen whenever they meet a OKW

yeah I agree wholeheartedly, the guards and penal battallion spam is very real atm.
+1

idk why they nerfed OKW Infantry support gun, it really is worthless right now.

The giant GG soviet mortar now is more powerful then ever, literally gives germans zero counter.

Who patched this? -.-

The "300 manpower squad" argument is such BS, in all cases, not just Penals.

Resource cost means absolutely nothing because resources are limited only by time.

Also, in a tactical territory control game, no one should be expected to have their entire army, all squads, engaging in every single engagement.

But that's exactly the expectation if you argue that higher cost squads should be overpowered (rather than just excel at a different facet of combat than other factions' squads), since the only way you'll then be able to have a fair fight is if you have literally every last unit in your army facing off against every unit in the opponent's army -- anything below that will simply not add up properly to equal resource expenditure.

The fact is that every single unit must be threatening in some way. All micro and tactics stack on top of that foundation. If a unit poses no threat to anyone (like Volks, Grenadiers w/o G43s, 222s, etc.), then that's a design/balance issue, not a unit cost issue.

thank you! this man speaks sense

Yeah as it stands the opposite of what you describe is the case, it is not feasible or realistic to have every unit centered in one battle.

Especially early game when you need to be capping, the buffs and nerfs are real here. I cant have 2-3 units just to deal with Penals.

How about balancing and buffing conscripts along with VOlks?

the whole point of soviet is to have plenty of cheap but stronger units that are versitile, molotov, anti tank grenades etc. like conscript

not this thing that Penals have become

they should take off the satchel sticking to tanks too, its a huge threat and they can sponge a lot of dmg in a mid game blob to get close enough in smaller games/maps.

And if you read most post I agree with that and pointed that their veterancy bonuses are also way too strong especially compared to OKW vet bonuses.

Sorry I just got so heated with other people that refuse to see this and put you in that bandwagon xD

my friend stopped playing completely due to this until next patch is released.

We had a guy play against us yesterday and intentionally spammed them both lol

he was like I am so sorry, lol blame Relic haha but i can respect someone who agrees it is strong even if they use it.

Some real ally fanboys in this place, why it took coh 1 yeaaars to achieve perfect balance. The goal should be to balance all the factions not the one you like to play ><