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It was done to me a few times, was totally dominating a game and my opponent spammed AT guns and was still able to get the kv8 out. Oh, the KV8 at its current price is also something that needs to be looked at. But ya Z3r07, its a damn good strat. Hard to beat even with a Wurfer.
p.s can you show me some of those replays? I have a dropbox I share with other players.
Whoever thinks this tank is "balanced", you must be trolling...
Get a kv8, back it up with AT guns, and you have another cheesy strong soviet strategy that wins in your hands. Its armor bounces p4 and at gun shots a good percentage of the time and its not worth approaching with infantry. You have to put your tanks forward first to chase it off, but that's not possible with AT gun backup, then your tank backs off and your infantry assume the role and they get roasted. No sir... That tank is just to much.
The gibbing abilities of the Soviets is crazy, from Is2 to ISU152, mines, kv8, and 120mm mortars its just to much. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the soviets are easymode.
Exactly, KV-8 plus 2 or 3 ZIS and your set.
I'll probably do a thread about it, I have more then 10 replays showing this.
Sorry, didn't take the time to read everything that's been said but I do agree that the IS-2 squad wipe needs to be toned down.
Like I said in previous posts, I hate anything that can fully wipe a squad because one of the most important mechanic in the game is unit preservation. So when you have something that can wipe a full healthy squad, it totally defeats the purpose of the game.
IS-2, ISU and KV-8 imo needs to be slightly adjusted so they do not completely wipe out squads so quickly.
First of all, the best counter to SU85s are pgrens with shreks because they move so slow and don`t deal a lot of damage to infantries, so what you are dealing with is in a way normal. You also need to consider the fact that the upgrade does cost 120 munitions and there is a huge risk of not only loosing them but giving the soviet player the chance to pick up the shrecks.
1:
SU-85s are meant to be used from long range, keep them as far away as possible from the front lines. DO NOT advance with them. If you do this, the German player will have a really hard time getting pass your front line to go and kill those SU85s. Use your infantries or other vehicles to sport for your SU-85 or if you have 2 of them, use 1 with focus fire to spot for the other one.
2:
Pgrens with shreck are not as effective vs. infantry as normal pgrens, obviously because 2 of the models are carrying those shrecks vs. smgs. So use any infantry possible between your SU85 and the pgrens.
Or, keep a maxim or mines near by. Maxim will suppress the pgrens very quickly giving time for your SU85 to back off.
But the best counter would be a sniper. If you are using T4 as soviets, you should have gone T1. Snipers will not only automatically bring down the squad to 3 man, which is very scary (because like I mentioned previously, as a German player, you do not want to lose those shreks) but they will also spot for your SU-85s with the huge range of view they have.
3:
Always ask yourself what you would do if you were your opponent. Is your SU-85 in a vulnerable position ? did it get fausted ? if yes then back off or again prepare a maxim or sniper to cover it.
4:
At vet1 the SU85 has tracking ability, use it to detect incoming pgrens!
5:
Don`t always go for SU85s! on a tight map like Kholodny Ferma, there is a lot of corners you need to turn without knowing what`s waiting on the other side, a lot of opportunities for your enemy to faust or surprise you with shreks.
All of this being said, the only real unit that can get into real trouble vs. the shreks are the SU85s and the SU76s.
2 T34s have enough anti-infantry power to defend themselves, the t-70 has speed to get out of range and not to mention the IS-2 that can completely squad wipe any German squad for that matter.