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Thread: 4 things that would make CoH2 instantly better20 Jun 2013, 15:56 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Jun 2013, 15:46 PMPingPing Seriously mate - you missed my point COMPLETELY. I have absolutely NO INTEREST in your DOW - I was using it as an example of somebody trying to argue something is better than something else with NOT HAVING ANY IDEA of how hood the other item was in comparison. You get what I'm talking about? Example - Porsche's are sh!t cars - Though I've never owned or driven a Porshce. Example - France isn't as good to travel as Italy - Though I've never traveled Italy. YOUR EXAMPLE COH2 is a much better game than COH1 - BUT I'VE NEVER REALLY PLAYED COH1. Let's get some point of reference here. You're complaining about CoH2, not Relic. Porsche is a car company, not a model. France is a country, as is Italy, and neither can be constrained into an experience based on travel, you have to live there to have that authority. Example - The Porsche model of this year is shit, because I drove it for 15 minutes and it doesn't feel as good as my older model. or: Example - Rome is not as good to travel as Paris, though I've not travelled to Paris. I base this on my experience of my passport being stolen at a train station in Rome. Hey, now that I look at it, you just described your own authority with the examples you gave, not mine. I -have- played vCoH, you've played neither DoW2 or DoW1 yet you try (and fail) to draw some kind of point from them, and to describe to me why your point should be taken seriously. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: 4 things that would make CoH2 instantly better20 Jun 2013, 15:50 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Jun 2013, 14:46 PMTychoCelchuuu The game would not "fare much better," it would just get a lot less criticism from people like me and Nullist who really loved Company of Heroes and wish we could get another game that good. You're right that this is not a continuation of vCoH, but calling it an "evolution of its basic principles and ideas" is sort of vague. If CoH 2 is an evolution, then so is Dawn of War 2. The basic point is that CoH 2 is quite different in a few ways and the ways in which it is different happens to break many of the things that people loved the most about vCoH, and in place we get a fairly mediocre to good RTS game that's nowhere near as tremendous as vCoH. This is disappointing because this is a sequel years later, when you'd think Relic would have the time to learn from vCoH, OF, and ToV, and take the best of everything (or in other words take the best of vCoH). Dawn of War 2 -is- an evolution. If you have 20 dollars I suggest you play around 5 hours of DoW 1 then compare your experiences there to DoW 2, I guarantee you will fully grasp what I meant with the quote you cited. Basic principles and ideas: Squad-based ww2 semi-realistic combat with complex damage systems when it comes to vehicles, several types of damage that go beyond "explosive" and "pew pew", hardcounters to tanks i.e. Elefant, softcounters to vehicles i.e. T0 Panzerfaust/AT Grenade, several types of resources to micro-manage, risk-assessment when it comes to "should I build eco or more units?", global abilities determined by the commander you choose, commander-specific units and load-outs (some good, some excellent, some not quite so good), several types of vehicles, though this is somewhere where vCoH arguably had a better and wider selection, and so on. Basic principles and ideas is "vague" indeed, because it is difficult to define the end-product of a studio and still come up with a list of keywords that no doubt were mulled over in the creation process. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: 4 things that would make CoH2 instantly better20 Jun 2013, 15:42 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Jun 2013, 15:33 PMPingPing 1 - I never say "Bro" and 2 - The fact you don't know what you're talking about - i.e. you have no appreciation for COH - basically makes your opinion worthless in a discussion of why COH2 is a failure IN COMPARISON to COH1. Essentially it'd be me critiquing say a fictional DOW 3 - where you - as a DOW player - loved DOW and DOW 2 - yet you dislike DOW 3 - and me - with absolutely bugger all knowledge of DOW1 or 2 comes in and says how awesome DOW 3 is and that all the other DOW's are complete rubbish. That's the problem here - you don't have a grounding to make your assumptions upon - it's all simply your opinion - based on VERY LITTLE COH experience. That said - game on and I hope you enjoy COH2. I'm sorry, but the differences from DoW 1 to DoW 2 are -staggering- already to begin with. One cannot even compare the two, they are that different. This in mind, the theoretical idea of a DoW 3 is pointless, as the evolution from DoW 1 to DoW 2 already could serve as a basis of argument. DoW 1 experience compared to DoW 2, when it comes to economy, defenses (there is no base building in dow 2, there is rather extensive base building in DoW 1), units, roles of units, the way suppression works, the way commanders and sub-commanders are implemented, the way vehicles work, the way melee works, the way buffs/debuffs both work and are applied, the role of global buffs and choosing a commander before you even begin the game (you chose your tech mid-game in DoW 1) are completely and utterly rubbish. Let me reiterate that one for you: DoW 1 experience served zero function in DoW 2, save for the basics of mouse-clicking and hotkeys that are shared in practically all competitive RTS titles. vCoH->CoH2 differences and these things you are complaining about already happened in DoW1->DoW2. If you want to base anything here on "experience", base it off the experience I have of Relic as a company. They've done this before, and it was wonderful. I have faith it will work here aswell. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: 4 things that would make CoH2 instantly better20 Jun 2013, 15:37 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Jun 2013, 15:13 PMTristan44 Company of heroes was "hugely popular". Maybe not in terms of SC2 but then again vCOH was completely different and groundbreaking. To me, it just seems CoH 2 doesn't have the replay-ability... The new features aren't "new" enough and the old formula (which made vCoH amazing) just isn't there... I played vCoH beta aND I NEVER wanted to stop. In the open beta in CoH2 I am already tired of it. It makes me sad. I'm sorry you feel that way, after 204 hours of CoH2 I still don't see it becoming lacking in terms of replayability. Perhaps they will eventually add in 2 more factions a year down the line, but for now the only thing truly in need is more balance-tweaking. I'm not happy about the Tiger vs Panther question. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: 4 things that would make CoH2 instantly better20 Jun 2013, 14:38 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2013, 15:55 PMPingPing This explains SO much....lol Go learn to play COH and I mean REALLY get into it - then - come back to COH2 - then go re-read the multiple posts you've made defending this game in its current form. I have to say - for somebody with relatively no experience in COH - you certainly are opinionated. I feel strongly, that this game would fare much better if it was called something like "The Eastern Front" and just delete the 'Company of Heroes' monicre from its name. I don't "think" that this game has to be like vCoH to be successful, frankly my view is that vCoH will be the downfall for this game we call CoH2. I love it in its current form, and every single person I've asked in-game and after matches has thus far agreed. So, forget talking about US vs Wehr, Britts vs PElite. This information as about as useful as discussing Eldar vs Orks, or Space Marines vs Chaos. Sure, the superficial similarities are there (squad-based combat, exp and levelling up for squads, hardcounters, soft counters, upkeep and pop cap, resource management et al) but what you're doing is using an example from one game, and force-feeding it into this one. vCoH was "critically acclaimed." It was not "Hugely popular" nor did it earn Relic titles like "most-played game of the year", nor can Relic boast about it beating Starcraft, their defacto rival in the RTS genre when it comes to fighting over the player/genre base. CoH2 needs to be as similar from vCoH, as it needs to be different. The overt arguments of both you and several "venerated" vCoH community spokespeople only serves to prove my point. Your whole argument now seems to be "Oh, you didn't play vCoH? well hello, bro, this is Company of Heroes -two- meaning you need the experience from the first! D'oh" Yes I realize that is a strawman, but it very accurately portrays your argument, does it not? This is not a sequel in terms of a continuation. This is a sequel to vCoH as much as Shogun 2 is a sequel to Rome Total War. Same studio, same genre, same stylistic approach and atleast equal amounts of hard work. But I reiterate: This is NOT a continuation of vCoH, it is an evolution of its basic principles and ideas. CoH2 is not perfect, indeed if it is released in its current state (in terms of unit balance, and their roles) it would flop. That's just my view, though. This is not to say that the changes are inborn from being different from vCoH, quite the contrary. This game needs to be different purely to be fresh and to allow newcomers some leniancy on the learning curve. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: SdKfz 221 vs M3A1 (weapon performance)18 Jun 2013, 20:17 PM Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2013, 21:05 PMace4sure @Fortune There are some points in your elaboration I tend to agree but i think your are talking a little away from the topic. 1. This is not about the 2cm upgrade, that's why I called it SdKfz. 221 (with 2cm i would be the SdKfz 222). This weapon opens this vehicles a totally different (limited) role. Though in reality the 2cm means an absolute bane for infantry, like most players here I definitly don't want the PE Armored Car from Opposing fronts back. 2. Maybe you skipped my calcution in the first post. But it's programmatically safe to say that the DPS sucks. Period. Even more when you compare it to the Russian Scout Car's maih gun which has almost twice the DPS. 3. Besides all the stuff you wrote about the use and functionality of the SdKfz, i barely miss a unit that is capable of flaking and harrassing weapon teams/snipers, pushing back lone squads which try to wild-cap around the map. All the stuff the Russian M3A1 works pretty well. Beste regards ace If you like, I can send you a replay or two of the SdKfz 221 taking out entire squads in retreat, and doing quite nice damage overall. Though the M3 is arguably more useful, one must consider the fact that the Special Rifle barracks is a tactical/build choice that inherently weakens the Soviets' field control and defensive capabilities, as compared to Support Weapons. The SdKfz on the other hand, adds to almost any builds the German might use, without influencing the overall tech tree. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Three ways to improve CoH2 from the Open Beta build18 Jun 2013, 20:10 PM But kafrion, misquoting a source (as you did) does not pass on the liability on to the reader of said quote. I asked you what you meant, because it is what -you- said. My bad for not realizing that your statements and opinions are grounded on someone else's writing and not your own. I'm puzzled as to what the rest of your post is all about, I'm sorry if I somehow offended you, I never said you were obnoxious, however. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: How to counter fast T70?18 Jun 2013, 20:05 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2013, 15:21 PMPorygon Actually, Wehr just need 2 mines and a Pak, one screck for safety, to kill a M8 but Wehr in France are more likely to stay together, defending a spot. Ostheer is more likely to spread or risk having overcapped by Zerglings Cons That dirt cheap T70 can one man army the whole Ostheer until P4 / StuG III come out Faust and screck cannot do anything to it If Pak got left behind alone, it will be 100% dead Only a lucky Teller can take it down, but it's so expensive Replay of my T70 raping some poor Ostheer guy I watched the game, though in my humble opinion the Ostwehr player lost due to inferior map control, even though at one point he outnumbered you in terms of squads. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: How to counter fast T70?18 Jun 2013, 19:59 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2013, 19:35 PMBasilone You just need your counters in the right places at the right time, same thing went for dealing with a M8. If Pak does get a hit it does like 70% damage. If faust hits it does like 30% damage and buys a ton of time to bring your Pak over. Shreks own it too. If circling your Pak really bugs you that much then just go for G43/camo doctrine and buy cloaking for it. Camo only works on HMG, Grenadier and Panzer Grenadier squads. Camo AT guns is a Soviet-specific doctrine, not shared by Ostwehr. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: How to counter fast T70?18 Jun 2013, 19:57 PM Well, personally I've found that a double gren + mg opening counters the T-70 quite effectively, provided you can get Vet 1 Incendiary Ammo + Faust to work. This combination will kill the T-70 outright, though granted it requires some psychological warfare on the Ostwehr's part. It's not a perfect counter but it's something. In: COH2 Gameplay