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Thread: T-34/76 feels plain pathetic 12 Jul 2013, 14:02 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2013, 01:43 AMpqumsieh The Panzer IV was weighed to be a more cost effective anti-tank. In contrast, the T34 was weighed to be a more cost effective anti-infantry unit. Fair game, but then again Soviets already have a lot of AI, so ignoring T3 for a quick SU-85 is mandatory with the current unit pool. That is the main issue. Half-Track, T-34, T-70 are all useless, pretty much. I am not saying that those units are bad, but you can get their job done just as good with any other T1/T2 unit combination. Considering PzIV hits @ 10min, going T3 is a death sentence, unless you desire to be on the defensive and spam Paks for the next 10 minutes. Ideally, since Soviet progression isn't tiered, going T3 or T4 should be a real decision. The only reason I see going T3 first is if Ostheer is spamming inf like mad, but then again, some instagib mortars will do an even better job and let us not forget that the SU-85 is also very capable to give Infantry a run for their money. And Katyushkas are T4 aswell, so... To solve, I would try this: HT from T3 to T2 Zis-26 from T2 to T3 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Can infantry be more responsive?8 Jul 2013, 10:00 AM Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2013, 16:18 PMBryan I have found microing infantry a little clunky as well. Seems less responsive then you'd hope at times. This. And the pathfinding is literally retarded, even downers would have less trouble finding their way to the target. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: only assholes in the coh2 community ?4 Jul 2013, 23:59 PM Every good player uses every tool at his disposal. There is no such thing as e-hounoure samurai battles in RTS games. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: There is no point playing Ostheer 1v1 anymore4 Jul 2013, 23:55 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Jul 2013, 23:45 PMEnix Stalling against MG42 spam on every VP for 18 minutes not my suggested strategy. 18 minutes? SU-85 hits 2-3 minutes after PzIV. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: There is no point playing Ostheer 1v1 anymore4 Jul 2013, 23:39 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Jul 2013, 23:38 PMEnix Upgunned guards are a decent long range unit, their infantry damage is pretty lackluster from personal experience, however I agree their grenades are quite powerful - I find myself not being able to use them very often however because all my Muni is usually spent on Molotovs to get MG's out of buildings early and either AT nades + DP's/Button to kill early vehicles (fails anyways, way to go passive smoke doctrine) If the enemy uses smoke, you have to - for once! - use the Guards as deterrent instead of just a-moving them across the map wherever that enemy vehicle is. You can't attack into a Guard'ed position, smoke helps you very little here. Also we both know that 2-3 Guards can do a relative amount of damage to a P4 (not nearly what shreks can do) but no competent player is going to just drive a p4 into a bunch of Guards. One MG42 behind his p4 and all of my AT is insta pinned, forcing me to retreat or take huge losses while also not being able to do remotely enough damage to a P4. You don't offensively fight with Guards vs PzIV, you stall the game until SU-85 arrives. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: There is no point playing Ostheer 1v1 anymore4 Jul 2013, 23:31 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Jul 2013, 23:15 PMEnix I feel that with the early usage of a well micro'd MG42 or two its quite easy to retain enough fuel / map control to get p4's out around 10-12 minutes into the game. Quite true, MG42 is the key to the early game for Ostheer. My conscripts already complain that "The germans rely on MGs way too much.". The problem is that a 10 minute PzIV won't help. The SU-85 will hit a minute later or so, even if you hold both fuel points. It's a much better idea to mindgame the Soviet by delaying the PzIV for 2-3 PGrens (who are pretty annoying to SU-85), which will also give you a chance at gaining map advantage, while he won't have enough troops because of his SU-85. I've said it elsewhere already, the SU-85 needs to come out a little later, to encourage the Soviet to not overgo T3/T-34 and force some Zis-26 out of him. If you've noticed guards rifles on the field and HTD (Very common) as the Ostheer player, you can immediately say "He's not getting Shock Troops this game to do a reasonable amount of damage to my infantry". That's a pretty flawed argument, upgunned Guards are able to hold their own against all infantry very well and their grenade is pretty strong. I'd go so far and say Shock Troops are completely useless right now as Guards simply have too much versatility to ignore them. Guards are also far from a "Joke" vs. T3, their ability is extremely strong and if you have a couple of them they can take a PzIV down in a reasonable timeframe. They suck against Ostwind, obviously. Soviet T3 is worthless at the moment, I agree. The T-34 needs a buff, the T-70 is alright and the half-track... does anyone ever use the half-track? (I do. But it's not pretty.) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Solution for SU 85 + T704 Jul 2013, 10:06 AM The problem with the SU-85 is the timing. It needs to come a little later, to force the soviet to rely on T-34/Zis-26. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: There is no point playing Ostheer 1v1 anymore3 Jul 2013, 16:01 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Jul 2013, 15:56 PMTristan44 While I do believe some players just need practice as the ostheer, the sovs seem the most versatile army. I definitely dont believe late game ostheer is better, thats ludicrous. With the Zis su85s and that mortar all the sovs need to do is dig in... then gg... I also blame poor map design as well, seems most 1v1 maps besides kholodny favor soviets. On another note, the game just doesnt have the same excitement as vcoh. There are rarely any players in automatch, the games take a while to find a player, and the forums are basically inhabited by same guys. This is a NEW GAME, it should be flooded with new players asking nub questions...sometimes I even tell myself I dont feel like playing.. what!!!! That shouldnt happen!! I played for hours and hourz a day in vcoh in college!!! Parties?? Blah!!!! Fire up coh! Lol. But now.... I wonder how long it will be to find a game . I have no trouble finding a game and I don't think the numbers in the automatcher actually reflect total numbers. The lack of newbs is because of relic's genius business model. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: There is no point playing Ostheer 1v1 anymore3 Jul 2013, 15:54 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Jul 2013, 14:55 PMBeltFedWombat I've also heard this idea that as Ost you need to penetrate, consolidate and advance. Been trying that, but this is CoH. No map control = no progress. Yup, that's the problem right there. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviets are now OP2 Jul 2013, 22:55 PM Oh hey, this is like that thing I said in closed beta and was banned on the forums for. In: COH2 Balance