T70 can finish off rammed tanks, kill halftracks and just about everything else short of german T3.
Why would I get two units worth of 95+55 fuel, when I can get an SU-85 for 115 fuel that does the same more reliably and vs. stronger tanks?
Add onto that m5 halftrack is fairly good anti aircraft and AI and you can REINFORCE from it.
That's definitely what I am looking for around 8min, how could I have missed it!!!!
In fact Ram even counters the best armor(elefant, tiger, panther, you name it).
Hardly "useless" or "a death sentence" imho
Ram is a different beast alltogether and it won't stay that way in the game for long. I can't justify getting a shit tier tank with a god tier ability just for the sake of the ability. Ram should be a last resort mechanism when you go "oh shit, I went T3 instead of T4 like Relic clearly intended, welp I need to ram now".
The best course of action is buffing the T-34 vs. the PzIV because that way
a) you can justify getting T3
b) you get interesting tank battles instead of rock, paper, scissors like it is right now
c) Zis-26&Ram defense becomes staple soviet gameplay
That's all very worthwhile in my opionion.
Despite a lot of peoples attitude in saying it is a gloried battering ram everyone here knows the tank works, ram with support will kill most german tanks out there.
But why would I resort to the risky business of non-guarenteed ramming + support micro when a SU-85 does all of that with a single click of my mouse? Zis-26&Ram SHOULD be staple play, I agree but it isn't. And the reason for that is because the T-34 is too bad and the SU-85 too good and comes too early.
The problem a lot of people are having is the fact that it is very cost ineffective, you can skip t3 get t4 and only 20 fuel later get an awesome su-85, getting a t34-76 does not feel as rewarding as it should for spending 90 for t3 and 95 for the tank.
Let me put it like this why do very few german's buy the stug atm, it is not really a "bad" tank it is simply not as cost effective as the P4. yes the stug can kill other tanks with support but why bother when you feel much more rewarded with a P4
Exactly!
Its ironic that usually the proponents of a PIV equivalent T34, are the same ones who cry about the "need for asymmetric design", yet fail to realise that the PIVs stat superiority to T34s is exactly an element of that, owing to Ram.
Fair point, but Ram simply isn't compelling enough to get a T-34, as good as it is. T-34 needs to either come considerably earlier, which it can't because even the Stug comes hardly any later than the PzIV (and Ostheer on Pak-defense is just trolololol) or the SU-85 needs to come a lot later, which it can't because then you'll get rolled by Panthers. The only remaining option left *is* buffing the T-34 (and delaying the SU-85).
It's also pretty biting that german T3 has no real options, you can only get expensive tanks and pick the flavor of the gun. Stug in particular is so hilariously misplaced, can that thing penetrate anything that the PzIV can't?