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Thread: Ostheer - The Dead Circle vs USF22 Sep 2016, 00:20 AM Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2016, 22:33 PMVuther But they do, because G43s only have a 0.80 accuracy penalty from moving while Kar's are halved. Not that it's necessarily enough like Australian implied...but the distinction is definitely there. i stand corrected! Thanks i didnt know G43s have a different moving accuracy penalty. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer - The Dead Circle vs USF21 Sep 2016, 22:07 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2016, 21:41 PMAustralian Magic But it's a copy-paste Wehrmacht mortar... Just with better veterancy. I'm pretty sure it's barrage is 1 second faster as well. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer - The Dead Circle vs USF21 Sep 2016, 22:06 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2016, 21:39 PMAustralian Magic Yea but with them, they can move and shoot. Grens with kar98s can move and shoot too. I'm basically saying that g43s don't help your DPS on the move when firing at long range. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer - The Dead Circle vs USF21 Sep 2016, 20:52 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2016, 20:33 PMAustralian Magic Well, 4x Grens with Jaeger upgrade can do quite well becasue it gives Grens chance to fire on the move but it's not best solution. DPS of g43s are basically the same at long range as the kar98s In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer - The Dead Circle vs USF21 Sep 2016, 15:26 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2016, 15:20 PMvietnamabc Zooks are ok but saying PIAT ok is really stretching it. Also UK is weird when Sappers using Bren better than IS. Im not really saying that zooks on RETs are OP I'm just saying how USFs don't really lose any AI power by getting more AT power. When you get Shreks on pgrens you lose half their DPS making them pretty bad vs infantry whereas USFs and UKFs don't have to put them on expensive infantry to gain some AT power. Just give them to your cheap sappers and RETs. If we take away zooks/ piats from sappers and RETs then it force Allies to choose between more AT and less AI or more AI and no AT since it'll have to go on their mainline infantry In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer - The Dead Circle vs USF21 Sep 2016, 03:15 AM Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2016, 03:09 AMSmaug I think a couple of snipers can single handedly contain usf infantry and support weapons. They are very mobile and can scout for mgs. Perhaps the very lethal usf mortar was introduced to counter the ostheer sniper especially in 1v1. However the powerful mortar has huge effect in 2v2 gameplay and no doubt needs a little nerf. The sniper was already nerfed with bigger target size and longer aim times. Don't see why USFs needs the mortar to deal with sniper anymore. RM also have very good DPS on the move while poor grenadiers can't chase down a sniper for the life of them. Ostheer used to deal with snipers by counter sniping but with the extra aim time it makes it nearly impossible for ostheer to counter decent micro play from the allies. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer - The Dead Circle vs USF21 Sep 2016, 03:12 AM Remove USFs mortar and give RETs flame thrower upgrade non-doctrinal. Also remove the ability for RETs to get weapon rack upgrades. Same goes for sappers. I think this is just another example of power creep imo. Ostheer needs to pay an arm and a leg to get AT weapons on their infantry (Pgrens with shrecks) while UKF and USFs can get decent AT weapons on any of their troops. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer - The Dead Circle vs USF20 Sep 2016, 22:01 PM I'm in the same boat as you except I mainly play 2v2 as Ostheer and USFs are the most cancerous to vs followed by Brit mortar pits in crazy spots. Problem 1: Ostheer is static and allied indirect fire is insane so Ostheer suffers. Problem 2: Ostheer is only really offensive with tanks (and maybe double 222s) but only has 1 tank that can deal with infantry and indirect fire effectively (p4). This is their main tool for making offensive pushes to help deal with problem 1 yet the Allies can get AT weapons on all their infantry (aside from SU but they have guards to help vs LVs). On top of that the Allies all have very good TD that hard counter ostheer most offensive unit the p4. Basically ostheer needs 222s and p4s to deal with indirect fire but Allies have counters both in the form of infantry and TDs to hard counter it. Ostheer last option comes from the panzerwerfer which is locked behind t4, is fragile, and is only effective a close range and against team weapons. Conclusion: ostheer doesn't really have an answer to USF. Panther and brummbarr should be but isn't mainly due to range and speed of Jackson's (plus panther can't hit anything while moving) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Underused Powerful abilities20 Sep 2016, 21:27 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2016, 17:37 PMferwiner These two are great when used together. First you place quick mines on enemy teritorry and then you finish off immobilised tank with the bomb. Great against 85s for example. Also the mine is 60 munition. Btw. these are both available in storm doctrine if sb needed to use that combo in 1v1 or random team. I don't know what source you're looking at, but in game the riegel AT mine costs 50 munitions. Perhaps you are getting the cost mixed up with the M20 AT mine? In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Underused Powerful abilities20 Sep 2016, 14:17 PM Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2016, 13:10 PMObersoldat USF ductape says hello I know man. I was gonna say USFS are an exception but if you have support nearby then even they can't escape In: COH2 Gameplay