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Jump back to quoted post28 Jun 2019, 18:58 PMLoopDloop

4 PFs is definitely doable as an opening, and it'll be a little weaker at the beginning but once they all get g43s they'll win almost every engagement.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jun 2019, 18:18 PMLoopDloop

*USF and brits crying in the corner with their almost nonexistant nondoc garrison clearance*

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2019, 07:43 AMthedarkarmadillo

Burst potential is what counters vehicles best. Ptrs will deal as much damage as a zook on each volley, but that leaves ample time to retreat. Should patching strike at most you will receive another 80 damage, the Shrek combo can easily exploit that patching into a dead LV. 200mp and 20 fuel are not going to magically make lvs run rampant, especially not after earlier pgrens give Ost a bit more pushing power.

Ost doesn't have a light tank, this is true. That doesn't mean that nobody else should either. Strong AI into easy LZ counter is bad design. Ptrs penals are also bad design (before you get all upity about them) and Ost was designed with a natural "each having the lead them falling behind" arms race timing. It's intended. They don't have a light tank, they instead have decent lights a bit sooner to counter the mobile transport vehicles that they also don't have but other factions have. Additionally they have a hell of a high impact FHT should they chose. They don't have a light tank but they are not helpless by any means. And it's designed that way.... Intentionally.... As in on purpose!

Shrek potential isn't irrelevant when we are literally talking about the power that being able to utilize it without teching is. The power of the T70 is the same that it has been for a very long time, only now Ost can bite a bit before the T70 hits the field without spending fuel. They shouldn't however be able to provide a quick counter to it without paying for such. T70 costs more fuel alone than Ost spends teching the counters, let alone its own tech costs and absolutely should warrant teching up to the proper counters. Not them being gifted so you can get medium armour 20% faster.

And actually, I play all factions, vanilla factions most of all which affords me the pleasure of understanding the interworkings of each faction. Furthermore having played since the beta and for more hours than I'd like to admit I'm familiar with the design intentions of each factions and aim to stay true to them with balance discussions. Giving any faction the ability to- for minimal risk- skip tech is a horrible idea which is only amplified by the current ability to literally turn that advantage (of risk free tech skipping) into a Shockwave of shock units culminating in a fast heavy tank.
20 fuel and 200mp might not seem much but timing of units is based on that and being able to skip over it and still be able to counter everything that comes your way (did you know a Shrek can pen every allied stock vehicle frontally from max range with the exception of brit comet and churchills?) is bad design and changes the tier from "skipping it" to get faster armour to "delaying your mediums" to get what shouldn't be a fully optional building.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2019, 03:01 AMthedarkarmadillo

It doesn't remove the threat from skipping, just makes the you safe from the thing that punished skipping.... got it.

Shreks unlike zooks however require an entire shot less to kill a light meaning a single squad and some good RNG can end a light in only 2 volleys. Also I'm not sure why you are now making them out to be ineffective when just a sentence ago you said they make you safe from LVs. If they don't like you claim then there is no reason locking them behind the tech will make a difference, but if they do, also like you claim, then it makes skipping t2 viable and without risk.

And here we are with further conflicting claims. Previously the short range and inaccuracy was an issue that made the Shreks unreliable but now a range and accuracy of "the enemy quite literally has to come to IT and touch it" is comparable.

I'm starting to think you are simply grasping at straws here....

All but brits are supposed to miss out on something by skipping tiers (cause brits are entirely linear, although they can miss out via side techs) pgren Shreks negate that design philosophy. Previously the skip carried the risk of being carried off field by LVs, that threat is now gone and calling it t2 skip isnt really an appropriate name as it has made t2 an optional tier entirely. You are not skipping t2 by going from 1 to 3,you are instead side teching for t2 in the same way the Soviet might by going t1 to t2. Except without giving up any real unit as Shreks are as scary as an AT gun due to burst potential where ptrs are more defensive in nature.