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The Panther currently has a frontal armor of 260,
at vet2 it get's a +10% armor bonus which put's it to 286.
The thing is Jackson's and SU85 at vet3 have a pen value of 286(max range). Making them be able to fully pen panther's from max range.
For SU85's no big deal you go in take a shot you back out, but Jackson's can chase you to oblivion penning every shot while moving at break neck speeds.
An Additional armor bonus of +10% would help the panther bounce a couple shots while either going in or retreating. |
If we are talking about il2 precision i will like to point out that it is the slowest of the off map payload currently. IIRC.
I have used this ability on the edge of maps in 4v4. At one occasion, Literally opponent's tanks were hugging the map boundaries in lienne forest. But since he was paying attention he was able to save both his panthers.
We both know we are talking about IL2 at strafe. |
IIRC, if you don't have visual the moment the opponent uses an offmap, the effect is delayed till you get vision in the area. Giving you a false impression on WHEN the ability was actually casted.
Still in corners of the maps it's pretty difficult to avoid. I lost a slightly damaged p4 once at the edge of crossing in the woods had full visual on the thing saw the smoke reacted the moment the smoke landed. |
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As a fan of the single player games I deeply dislike this game. I hate it for how awful it runs first and foremost, but damn I hate it even more that it has no soul(the community is not the soul given by beth) in it. |
blvckdream is often trolling, don't take him so seriously.
Yeah.. but I'm trolling too. |
That is also why Mobilized Reserves could be an additional tech cost, I feel like the 7-man upgrade in its current state shouldn't be given for free when you go Tier 4.
Here'a good question. That like asking for player to spend resources on stuff they might not need. If you went penals neither molly, at nades, mob reserve does anything. Delaying the thing is fine but why lock it behind potentially unnecessary side tech. |
Yes everyone who wants a Tiger nerf is clearly an Allied-Fanboy.
Yes, Cus All Heavis are OP not Just the Tiger. So if you wan't a nerf for Tiger only,then they are a fan boy.
**ohhh.. BUT THE IS2 GOT IT'S ARMOR NERFED TO 340 FROM 375 which gives stugs a pen boost of 46% to 50%(panther 53% to 59% both max range) which hardly is any different.
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I think the IS-2 and KV-2 should require all-tiers and Molo's and AT Nades to be teched in order to build them. If that isn't enough to delay the timing then worst case maybe you even require the 7-man upgrade but I don't think that would even be needed honestly.
Here is the thing, By the time you see IS2 in game if your sov opponent is going cons they certainly have both molies and at nades(these 2 are 10 fuel each) well before they have t70. Which if IS2 seems fast now 10 fuel isn't gonna make it come any slower. |
XD is2 gets armor nerf, and i would suggest nerfing tigers ROF or at least increasing vet requirements. I didnt mention tiger armor nerf at all..., its armor is fine
BTW check my stats and rethink before you call me a allied fanboy 
Anyone can be fanboy. Fanboyism is in the heart not the hands. Stats don't prove anything. |
i had a tiger killing my schocks in 2 shots (1 shot then i retreated got them on the retreat), so does the is2 with grens, the problem is the tiger gets much higher rof with vet making him capable of landing more shots in then the is2, making him overall better then the is2 (against inf).
Sqad size doesnt really matter that much against heavies becouse of sqad bunching etc.
This is not even due to misplay, you sit in green cover bunched , see the heavy retreat close together and get wiped. Thats why the tiger seems oppresive since in can get more shots in then the is2
Edit: If the is2 gets his YOLO armor nerf, so should the tiger be looked at, since its vet doesnt fit in well with the changes + it has lower vet requirements than the is2, for no apparent reason, while having higher damage output
The Tiger has 300, How low do you want it to be, it seems like you allied fanboy's won't be satisfied until you can pen everything with 200 mp at guns from a range of 120.
Let's just give all axis armor 40 armor caus allied fanboy juat want it there way. Then fucking first nerf all your infantry. |
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