Pios cap just as well as grens in late game and its ostwind/brummbar/pwerfer who do the infantry killing heavy lifting, not grens, unless you actually believe grens should stand up to fully upgraded tommies or rifles too, in which case, you're delusional. Ost late game was ALWAYS about vehicles, never about infantry.
There is a reason why in place of grens, pios are being rebuilt.
I honestly didn't expected I would need to teach a wehraboo the very basics of playing the ost faction, but here we are.
I feel like what Hannibal said about you maybe correct "What game are you playing, it sure isn't coh2" paraphrasing but still the jist is there.
You clearly did not understood what I said, so I'll leave you here with opportunity to re-read it as many times as you need for it to sink in.
Dude and it's very evident you didn't understand what we(not you but the other guy) were talking about, I suggest you intern heed you own advice. |
Do you mean replay files?
To be honest, no idea about that. But I also doubt that it is possible. As far as I know (I don't have much knowledge about replay files though), no unit positions are saved. So even if you'd get some info on HP decline, there is no way to get the range.
I didn't mean replay files. But I guess that would be very accurate. I doubt relic would let the extraction of their proprietary play back format even though it's probably a unit positions along with at what frame or however in game time is calculated is attached to it. |
https://www.coh2.org/guides/11637/extracting-statistics-guide
I tried that sadly you can't get one of those files anymore. Or at least that what it tells me. |
Download mod tools through steam, you can preview all stats in attribute editor there.
That's what I use now. |
From a model that I made after in game testing and modding rifle stats.
I also made a test with the live Gren K98 and it seems to work well. To be fair though I so far focused on getting the timings right, I have not checked for the actual damage and assumed those are correct so far. That formula is in line though with what we see from all other weapons in the game.
Can anyone tell me how to extract info from the game it self. Then even I could just make an app that gives you more accurate dps graphs. |
Why did you rebuild a unit that is past its window of opportunity with full knowledge that there is a likely vetted unit that counters it?
Are you high. Are you srsly saying that infantry Fking infantry isn't necessary at all points of the game. Like you berated me on basic RTS mechanics and your blabbering something soo noobish.
And if you really need that unit, why didn't you supported it with much stronger HMG, like I've shown you in T34 vs P4 example?
I mean SU85 is a lot stronger than a stug so should the p4 be less expensive compared to t34/76 now. Is that what you are saying.
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You talk about... delaying what here actually?
Do I need to explain to you performance difference of upgraded infantry vs unupgraded infantry in timing when there are tanks on the filed vs when there are not?
But what about in late game when you loose an unit(your bound to it's late game after all)??? what then how do you justify a 270mp+60mu unit being worse than a 258mp+50mu unit(remember this is what me and the other dude is talking about).
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Because this is not 1v1 void null micro battle simulator.
Because you'll get 2nd T34 much faster then you would get 2nd P4.
Because T-70 will make sure they don't arrive at the same time.
Because SU-85 backing it up will make up for that P4 stat advantage, even if P4 will be backed by StuG.
Because soviets will have the tools to effectively support that T34 before it and P4 arrives via ZiS, SU-76 or newely made mid to late game viable AT penals.
Tell be this the situation you just described how does teching delay factor into this. It's pretty evident that your talking abut a point were both parties are fully teched. Tell in this situation what significance teching requirements have now.
Don't forget the argument. |
You say timing doesn't impact or justify performance.
I'm pointing out you're DEAD WRONG.
OK then why t34/76 the shittiest medium despite coming at the same time as p4 which is slightly later than croms/shermans??? Justify that first oh great Katiof one. |
Lets lock LMG42 behind T3 and you'll eventually learn that it does mean something.
M8 if you don't know the context this belongs to don't reply. |