Profile of Corp.Shephard

Everytime I see a thread about this the change is always so extreme.

Increase the manpower cost by 50%!

Decrease the number of members by two!

Make the gun setup twice as slow!

These are such extreme changes for this unit. You readily admit that the unit is balanced in other game modes and likely it is balanced if you were better at the game. You'd ruin the weapon at different skill tiers with such monumental changes. The change should be incremental if anything.

I am I guess one of these high level players who will sometimes see Maxim Spam in team games and generally just plays around it.

I am actually working on a guide right now which has essentially been my OKW team strategy and seems to handle Maxims quite well.

I just don't think there's a huge problem here. I'd say that there's a "micro unfairness" to the Maxim insofar as it is easy to control and use and flanking it is harder. Managing multiple units to flank it is exceptionally hard and generally hard-countered by spamming them. All you need to do is change your build though! If you see two Maxim spammers then you need to get indirect fire ASAP. You don't need a big front line of Grenadiers to fight Maxims necessarily.

The Maxim is dead-end unit though. It can never improve it's utility to the army. Grenadiers, Volksgrenadiers, Conscripts and Riflemen can be upgraded and modified to change to battlefield conditions. They can throw grenades, tackle and kill armored units or specialize against infantry.

The Maxim has no flexbility. If you exploit that and exploit it's weaknesses against indirect fire and buildings you can fight it very well.

@Shep Oka and Trois are perfect for the shitty poo poo trucks.

and I cant veto the campy OKW friendly maps without having the EVEN MORE campy winter maps.

And usually...they Literally drive directly to the fuel point without capping anything else...and the CAMPaign begins,so i wont even have 3 rifles out by the time this happens.



@Saran I usually play with randoms

And they are almost always Double US.(i know im asking for trouble by playing with randoms....but all my friends just LOOOVE the OKW for some reason..i cant put my finger on it.)

You don't need three Riflemen flank a Kubelwagon.

Kubels really don't lock down the map well enough to stop you from getting tech either.

My advice is to listen to the map. Listen for the Kubel. Can you hear the engine? Is it camping the fuel? Is he aggressively pushing it at your first units? It's still an MG. Avoid it early game. Almost every 2v2 map has a pretty easy to exploit cutoff point. Road to Kharkov is a great example. He's camping the fuel field? Jump over and double-team his ally or go for one of the many cut-off points and hurt his resources. There are plenty of buildings that you can garrison as well.

As the US forces you have the best mobility possible really with the most robust early game unit: the Riflemen. Use buildings to zone out the Kubel + Sturmpioneer while you set up flanks, double team or cut-off resources.

You only need to deny him fuel to keep up and get your tech on time even if you can't control the fuel itself.

Another good example is Hurtgen Forest. There are no buildings on Hurtgen. Literally zero buildings. Let's make an assumption that the OKW is bottom right and you're top right. His Kubel drives directly to the river to camp it and make the crossing hard. It's protecting the fuel.

That's fine. Scout it out with your Rear Echelon (or just listen), realize the trap, send your first two Riflemen through the forest. Threaten the munitions point. Cut him off.

There's green cover everywhere and you're two Riflemen strong so it's hard for him to charge you down with other units. He has to back the Kubelwagon up and try to deal with you. Suddenly the front is open! Your third Riflemen and hopefully your Rear Echelon squad are emerging from your base. They pair up and push. If the Kubel fell back then it's suddently super vulnerable to the River attack. If it didn't fall back then you're taking the cutoff and you can flank it from behind. Rear Echelon + Rifleman can beat the Sturmpioneer if it is protecting the flank. If the Kubelwagon gets flanked it's hot garbage.

It's really hard to describe this in words but I hope you see what I mean. Even on an awful map like Hurtgen you deny him the fuel and with a good flank you'll get the kill on the Kubel. If the Kubel dies then he loses his long-range advantage and his Sturmpioneers are bait to any pair of units. Be creative with your movements and use your mobility. Pair off and use flanking movements.

There's even an alternative version where you don't even try to cut-off your opponent but swing to the left and cutoff your ally's opponent. If the Kubelwagon crosses the river to pressure your inner territories it's easy to flank and kill. Pull the germans apart. Don't let them have their way.

Worst case scenario you cut off his resources for a minute or two and you get your LT+M20 or Captain up. Kubel's deadweight and you're suddenly ahead in manpower.

How is Oka River a chokepoint map...?

I'm not even sure how to respond to your post constructively as I can't quite tell what problems you're having.

I personally find Kubelwagons very easy to deal with even when they are backed by 1-2 Stumpioneers. Use a buddy system. Spread out in pairs. Jump into every building possible to zone out the enemy units. Envelop slowly and destroy them.

If he makes one mistake with the Kubelwagon everything goes to hell for him as well. Try to pressure his position from as many angles as possible. It's really not that bad.

Maps like Trios Point and Oka River Winter should be easy because buildings are plentiful. Riflemen and Rear Echelon squads in buildings are extremely dangerous to Kubelwagons and Sturmpioneers alike. Spread out and take those buildings to zone him out slowly.

If you hate these maps so much though then BAN them! What are you using your bans on if not the maps you hate? 2v2 has like the highest number of map bans available. Use em'!

Team games are great but I dunno how to help your desolated morale. You're describing issues too vaguely for me to really apply better advice than: use buildings/green cover and ban maps.

Are the war spoils not available against AI? I just got through playing 20-30 games in a row against AI, in custom match's, then Automatch vs AI, and haven't gotten a single crate. Not even a bulletin.

You can get them when playing against AI.

For the most part all time played contributes to the item dropping.

Imagine a virtual bar that represents how likely items are to drop. The more you play the more likely it becomes. The bar fills up. When an item drops the bar empties out.

If you were playing a casual AI match between automatches or other matches then the bar might have emptied in those other matches and then was filling back up during an AI match.

If you played 30 AI matches back to back and got nothing... well, that sounds like a bug?

I've gone out to eat and just left the game running with a 1v1 of me versus an easy CPU and gotten items when I have returned.

It's a tricky ability.

I used it a fair amount in the Alpha when I had access to it. It feels like a bundled grenade fired from the cannon but this attack has an "aim" time. The attack didn't seem to automatically track the enemy unit. I've used it on moving and retreating squads in the past and it just failed to do anything/failed to fire at all.

I would be in favor of a 'telegraph' to be added to the attack? Perhaps a more obvious telegraph. The Greyhound's turret will aim for a second before it fires but it's really hard to tell when it is happening.

It's hard to judge the power without having my hands on it again but the Greyhound really isn't that phenominal of a unit at it's current price and CP level.

A Pak40, Upgunned 222 and Puma are all easily fielded before CP3 and are all able to fight it without putting themselves at considerable risk. You don't have to engage it with infantry if you think it is too risky.