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Thread: Call to action - Let's Be Awesome Together17 Feb 2014, 15:35 PM This thread: "Lets make the community better!" "This game sucks, it's no vcoh, therefor it sucks. Now make all the changes that I want and then it will have an awesome community." "relic sucks cuz they don't get the community" "I like the game, I think it's fun, I'd like there be more events for the regular Joe's out there" "That's cause your dumb and not a pro." "The game is getting better" "The game can never be better, much suckage, such shallow meta" "wait... weren't we talking about the community" "We are the community and we all hate the game" "I'm here and I like the game?" "Doesn't matter it sucks relic has to listen to me" "Whatever, Bro" EDIT: I'm looking through the other threads on the site and seeing how great this community can be. Genuine ideas about the metagame, balance issues, people talking about different strategies, how they liked using this commander or that commander, or how they don't like the commanders etc. Enjoying some vid of a kid screaming like a girl (hilarious btw). Fun stuff like that makes the community great, and all Noun was asking is to be more aware, I think, and just enjoy creating and consuming content (streams, casts, art, whatever) and try not to bring eachother down for childish reasons. That is all. In: Lobby
Thread: Call to action - Let's Be Awesome Together14 Feb 2014, 20:31 PM +1 for doge oh and I agree with your post for the most part. In: Lobby
Thread: Call to action - Let's Be Awesome Together14 Feb 2014, 19:55 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2014, 19:33 PMInverse The goal was never to be like SC2. If Relic came out and said they were going to make CoH2 as it is today, nobody would be frustrated because we would've known what to expect. The frustration stems from being led to believe that the competitive scene was something Relic was focused on, when ultimately it doesn't seem that it was. Honestly, I'm over it by now. I'll still contribute my opinion because I still have hope that an expansion can make things better, kind of like a reverse Opposing Fronts situation. But it annoys me to hear people ripping on those who are doing nothing but venting their frustration at the way this whole situation was handled, and pointing fingers at the community when the community has nothing to do with it at all. I'm sorry that you feel slighted by Relic. I know people in the mod community that feel the same way. The fact of the matter is they are (unfortunate as that may be) a development studio affiliated with a publisher with a goal to turn a profit to invest in more patches and releases while also having profit left over. They have to invest in the areas where they are going to see the most returns. It looks to me that they do care about the competitive scene as they sponsor SNF and are asking to community to come together and present ideas on how they could improve this area. I don't know what your relation with Relic is/was but unfortunately they're are not an omnipotent studio that can cater to everyone at once. You're very clear in what you dislike about the game and are very articulate as to your reasoning, but beyond voicing those opinions you can either support the game and the community or continue to state how you feel like you've been slighted, and repeat the same problems you have with the game over and over. In: Lobby
Thread: Call to action - Let's Be Awesome Together14 Feb 2014, 19:29 PM Why is the goal to be like SC2 or LoL. I though the goal was to create a community around the game that wants to organize new and interesting events, bring more people that play and enjoy the game into the community to participate in some of the events. @ Wifi - I Lied. In: Lobby
Thread: Call to action - Let's Be Awesome Together14 Feb 2014, 19:11 PM The thread has devolved "I don't like the game" --- "I like the game" I am guilty. In: Lobby
Thread: Call to action - Let's Be Awesome Together14 Feb 2014, 19:07 PM I wouldn't invest four years into playing any game, not going to get a very good roi on that. I did however, play vCoH since it's release. CoH2 is a different game, it's not exactly what I wanted, but I still think it's a fun game. I'm really sorry that it wasn't what you wanted, I wish you could get enjoyment out of playing it. In: Lobby
Thread: Call to action - Let's Be Awesome Together14 Feb 2014, 18:55 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2014, 18:38 PMInverse I don't like the core game. 'nuff said. I don't like World of Tanks, find me on their forums. In: Lobby
Thread: Call to action - Let's Be Awesome Together14 Feb 2014, 18:44 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2014, 18:27 PMKolaris CoH2 is well below vCoH's player marks before the move to Steam. Certainly more people own vCoH, and CoH2 is doing "better" at the same point in its lifespan, but that's inevitable with the success of its predecessor. What we can tell is that CoH2 isn't growing. Maybe that has changed since someone showed me the data a couple months back, but CoH2 has been getting an amazing amount of bad press that goes well beyond the competitive "vocal minority" community. Please provide an example of said "bad press", after all there is an amazing amount of it out there right? Pretty sure when I googled CoH2 last on news search all I got was "CoH2 free weekend" which doesn't speak to the quality of the game at all. You haven't played the game since beta, if you want to get a feel for the differences just play a couple games, otherwise all of your statements are weak conjecture. In: Lobby
Thread: Call to action - Let's Be Awesome Together14 Feb 2014, 18:12 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2014, 17:38 PMPingPing Ciez - the problem is the game - to the majority of players and not the minority which unfortunately you are a part of - it just IS NOT FUN. Where is your data to back up this statement? I can look at the amount of people playing the game on steam and then the number of people that complain and hate on the game on these forums and I would say they are very much in the minority. Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2014, 17:38 PMPingPing Till they make the game enjoyable for the majority - this game is done for. You can talk all you like about esport or streaming or marketing or whatever - the core of the problem is the game - if it's not good on its own, then none of this matters. The VAST majority of people that play the game are not active within the community or even look at the forums. The point that Noun is trying to make is "How can we get those people that like the pzIV drawing to like the SNF fights drawing?" it's about bringing those players that DO enjoy the game and are not part of the community into the community. In: Lobby
Thread: Call to action - Let's Be Awesome Together14 Feb 2014, 16:13 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2014, 14:14 PMInverse That's not entirely true. There's luck in SC2; if you get lucky and scout your opponent first on a four-player map, you can defend some all-ins easier. If you get lucky and scout some obscure building rush, you can defend against it a lot easier. There might not be luck in the game mechanics in the form of RNG, but there's still luck. The point remains that good players know how to minimize luck-based situations and use them to their advantage, but the luck is still there in one form or another. You are correct - this bit of luck is present in games like SC2, however minimal it may be. Jump back to quoted post14 Feb 2014, 14:14 PMInverse In poker, if you get a bad hand, you fold and play another. Minimal loss. In most cases in Dota 2, if you get unfavourable damage rolls, you miss a last hit, or maybe in some rare situations miss a kill. Again, minimal loss. In CoH2, you miss the last hit on a Tiger Ace, well, game is hard. It's a problem of scale, not a problem of RNG = bad. With this logic, in terms of poker, folding every time you get a bad hand means you will eventually win - which is not true. The game will eventually force you to play a bad had with the intention of making it a good hand - which it could turn out to be based of the flop - pretty huge but of luck going on there. The same argument can be made in terms of CoH2 - A player that understands the chances of an AT gun getting that last hit on an expensive tank will do whatever they can to make sure there is 0% chance that AT gun can get a shot by staying away from it (folding one's hand). I find that RNG in CoH2 has been fairly well balanced since launch (not talking about commander/balance issues). With skill one can effectively mitigate these risks to a high degree. On the other hand the RNG is what makes CoH2 a company of heroes game. Now I never played at the uber high level in either game but I did play a lot of CoH as well, from launch and I can say that you could get squads wiped by a lucky arty strike or a lucky mine, there was a similar amount of RNG present at least from my perspective and experience with the games. That being said I think there is absolutely room for improvement and I hope to see a lot of the issues that I have fixed in the next patch. Do I also think that Relic and/or Sega made some poor decisions on the monetization/business model for the game? Yes, I do. This game has been out for just over 6 months I think, It took vcoh I'd say about a year to get to a really good level of balance and I also think that they can still change their model for the better, it could coincide with an expansion release, which I do not doubt is in the works. In regards to OP - people criticize relic all day. But as soon as relic, gently, criticizes them in a very minor way, they lose their shit (not everyone, obviously). All he was trying to do was help guide the community a bit to help the game in a way outside of direct changes to the game. In: Lobby