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Thread: Shock troop separate timer for grenades? 16 Dec 2019, 17:35 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2019, 16:18 PMSander93 This is not true. MP 40 Volks have a shared cooldown on their smoke grenades and regular grenades, similar to Shock Troops. Obers and Falls (and Assault Sections) do not have a shared cooldown, but they have white phosphorous instead of smoke grenades which they can't run through without slowing down and taking damage. Furthermore, instead of 15+30=45 munitions for Shocks, the WP and bundle grenade combo costs 30+35=65 munitions which is significantly more. Not really comparable. Did you happen to forget that they have 1.5 armor, which makes them 33% more durable to small arms fire compared to any other squad? Okay my bad. But they had this grenade. If there was a bug perhaps they should be compensated. I know they have body armor which is good. But they are a completely anti infantry cqc squad. And please explain why airborne guards don't have separate cooldowns? 380 mp? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Can you count on Osttruppen?16 Dec 2019, 17:29 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2019, 14:43 PMWiderstreit Osttruppen Commander was my favorit for years, sadly it changed, because everything made this troups good was removed. 1. no refresh on 251-flamer. That was the biggest "passive" nerf to Osttruppen. 2. lower drop-rates of Allii-weapons. 3. weaponslot to 1 4. refresh-rate nerf and the commanders was killed by: 1. 2. Gustav can't be used in enemy bases 2. weapon suppoert instead of the ress-plain Some changes were needed for the main balancing, but Osttruppen become worse and worse. - They don't worth 200mp in late-game without any ability. - They are bad weapon-crews - Better give them 2-3 weapon-slot and remove the LMG-upgrade. **change to make them useful: Changes to Osttruppen (all variants): 1. give them normal hit-box-sice when they don't move. So they become useful as weapon-crews. 2. remove the LMG-upgrade, give them 2-3 weapon-slot instead, so they can pick up stuff. 3. Osttruppen should be able to build sand-bags and wire without commander! So all commanders benefit form Osttruppen. Changes to Osttruppen-Commander (old version) 1. change trenches with new Bunker-Trench ability. (only pios can build) 2. remove the HMG34/PaK drop, give them a Beutepanzer T34/76 instead. 2 to 3 weapon slots? Are you kidding me? What is the fault of poor conscripts that they get stuck at 1? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Shock troop separate timer for grenades? 16 Dec 2019, 11:40 AM Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2019, 07:35 AMFarlion Separate grenade timers are a stupid idea that should not return. Ahem. It's not about returning. It is already in the game. We are just talking about equality here. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Shock troop separate timer for grenades? 16 Dec 2019, 11:37 AM Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2019, 08:31 AMKhan +1 Definitely do not miss the days of shocks smoking and then following up with an immediate frag grenade. Mp40 volksgrenadiers can do the same as well. I hope you are aware about this. There should not be disparity. Either everyone should have it or none. And tge entire purpose of shocks is to storm frim the front. Hence the body armor. Hence the smoke grenade. Same cool down has greatly hampered their assault role. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Shock troop separate timer for grenades? 16 Dec 2019, 11:36 AM If elite infantry on one side possesses said smoke grenade the other side should have it too. This is not an excuse that axis smoke slows infantry. Its still smoke. It still disrupts sight as well as reduce movement and adds damage. This is not about asymmetrical balance. This is balancing the troops. As for airborne guards. Why can't they use both grenades? They are the most expensive unit in the game. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Shock troop separate timer for grenades? 16 Dec 2019, 06:38 AM Hi. Can we please have the separate timers back for grenades for shock troops. I know it was a bug and then grenade cool down was reduced to compensate but in the recent patch the cool down was reverted. One reason which was stated that it becomes annoying to deal with multiple smoke grenades in front of mgs.( having to re place them again and again).My argument is the same cheese is present with mg40 volksgrenadiers( see tightrope latest replay on alliance of defiance) and couple of axis infantry like falls etc. If the bug is unfixeable please compensate the unit somehow because right now i feel shocks are no longer in that sweet spot. Even assault grenadier blobs can overcome shocks since they are cheaper. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Guards underperform15 Dec 2019, 14:36 PM Jump back to quoted post15 Dec 2019, 13:38 PMWiderstreit But it is an extreme good ability. Without panzer-taktics it is gg for the vehilce (if you have a AT-gun). If 40mun is too much for that ability, I don't undestand the community anymore. xDD e.g. if you remove the LMG requirement you save much muni because you don't have to upgrade. What is the cost of Pak stun shot ability? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Guards underperform15 Dec 2019, 13:28 PM Guards are squishy as well. Especially airborne guards. Idk why. I always notice when my men under rocket artillery conscripts most of the time survive but guards straight out vanish. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Guards underperform15 Dec 2019, 13:26 PM Jump back to quoted post15 Dec 2019, 12:59 PMWiderstreit Are you comparing the PTRS power versus Tigeres and Elefants? Remove the LMG requirement and the ability is fine, or not?. No. Price has to come down in any case. 40 munitions is too much for a ability for which you need to go close to the tank and risk your squad. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of the Soviets15 Dec 2019, 13:24 PM Please leave my meat grinder alone. In: COH2 Balance