Profile of HelpingHans

Jump back to quoted post2 Jul 2014, 12:24 PMMilkaCow

While I agree with the issues you listed, I think your approach to fixing / balancing them is not good (On a personal sidenote, I think OKW vs USF is probably still easier to win than OH vs USF).

The officers start with weapon upgrades, but are also more expensive than a normal riflemen squad. More popcap, more value, more reinforce cost.

M20 and 221/222 are pretty in line. With 11 / 5.5 armor and 240 HP for the M20 and 9 / 4.5 armor and 200 HP for the 221. Their guns are similar, though the M20 can tackle light vehicles better at short range due to higher penetration. The price 340 / 20 for the M20 and 210 / 15 for the 221 in my eyes makes those differences acceptable. My only current problem with the unit is the sideskirts upgrade, as it improves survivability a bit too much. The bazooka crew is good, but also risky - losing a M20 means it can drop a bazooka.

AA-HT is definitely a problem. I don't think their timing is a problem, as you can get the Oberkommando FlaK HT shortly earlier or a puma shortly after. They just vastly overperform for their cost. Suppression on HMGs as well as on the main gun, better DPS than an Ostwind and a good enough penetration to fight off even light tanks. I'd primarily nerf that unit, as I think it is one of the main causes why the USF are so strong right now.

Pz II in any other Tier buy T4 is a bad idea. Putting it in the medic truck would make this building far more appealing, putting it into the repair truck would create a really bad situation for USF or T1 Soviets. Right now a ~4 to 4:30 FlaK HT is no problem for Oberkommando and people hated it until they found out how easily the M15 AA HT counters it. Now imagine a 5 minute Panzer II that can fire on the move, kite perfectly and has a place where it can afterwards just drive to get repaired. Mediocre micro requirement, low chance of losing the unit (only Vet1 riflemen get rifle AT-nade, no AT on the field, can already beat the M15 AA HT right now, even more assuming that gets nerfed) and no need to bind another squad to repair. I think the PII has some timing issues at T4, but that's literally the only tier you can put it in :/

Regarding Riflemen and Rear Echelon. The latter definitely need a nerf / rework of their volley fire, while the first are really hard to balance I guess. They need to be able to deal some long range damage to fight Sturmpios, but not too much because Gren / Volksgren should outperform them on range in my opinion. You cannot buff their short range damage too much, as Sturmpios should win against them at that range. I think most nerfs to the Riflemen should be indirect nerfs, even if they do not fit the weapon profiles so much. Decrease Sturmpio mid/long damage, but increase short. Slightly decrease rifle long range damage. Then if needed, more nerfs. I'd first go with a worse moving modifier making them deal less damage on charges.

Besides those points to Hans I have to say I almost completely disagree with OP. 3/4 of the posted things are outright wrong or problematic. Since OP did not put the time into actually researching a lot of the prices or designs of the unit I don't see a reason to argue.