Profile of Retaliation

They have a *chance* to come out vet 2. Most of the time (>50% it feels) they're vet 1 which doesn't really do anything except against kubels and decrease the time they take to get to vet 2.


The e8's 76mm trades significant AI preformance in exchange for greater than T34-85 AT preformance. Looking at CoH2-stats, it penetrates 60-50 percent of the time against the panther's front compared to the 75mm sherman's 40-27 percent chance (first number is close range; second is max). Like every sherman however, it can take the 70 muni .50cal upgrade which lessens the impact of the cannon's poor AI ability. The 215 armor means you have a 17% chance of deflecting point blank panzerschrecks.

Against ostheer it will eat anything short of a panther they send at you, while the limited resource income against OKW means that you always outnumber whatever armor they send at you.

It's an amazing doctrine. Not only do you have vet 2 riflmen by the second skrimish (presuming they don't straight up come vet 2), but it's a 0cp call in! 2 capping units 5 seconds into the game. They don't take up the hq's build queue so you can build an ambulance or upgrades whenever you want.

The easy 8 dominates all other medium tanks and preforms well against the cats if you have anything to tip the scales like engine damage. The 50 cal upgrade is excellent at mitigating it's poor anti infantry performance.

Flamethrower upgrade and phosphorus strike are kind of lackluster though. Upgrading flamers on the field rather than returning to base means you'll get one, but it doesn't lessen the pain of losing that vet 3 squad to a flamethrower explosion

Build order wise I think the most interesting part is that you can build an ambulance almost immediately after the first rifle squad, and still have enough manpower to get that second squad by the time the cool down is over. 4 capping units (2 rifles, rear echelon, medics) by ~2 minutes into the game.

I would very much like this commander to drop. Having early access to AT nades can be a boon against Kubels. Not that its a must have, but there are so many times I would like to fire one off at those little buggers but cant because its too early.

I get mixed feelings of glee and guilt whenever I see a kubel now.

i won terror commander(second one) and mechanized company(dont have US)

btw does these commanders stay or are they temporary?

I have the opposite problem! Won scavenger despite not owning OKW.

Also have won incendiary airstrike finisher, one piece of camo, and some misc. bulletins that I already own.

First match this patch and I got to try out the buffed IS2. I'm not sure if those stuka strikes leave flares or not, but I sure couldn't see (or dodge) them for the life of me .