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Thread: SOVIET COMMANDER REVAMP DISCUSSION31 Jul 2018, 20:30 PM Actually I find it hilarious that there arent commanders with IS-2 and Guards combo when in real life IS-2 were only operated by and delivered to Guard Armies. So much for Relic's "historical realism" In: Lobby
Thread: Commandos Should Not Have Brens30 Jul 2018, 22:34 PM Sneaking around isnt always viable in late game when you need squads on frontlines to cap stuff. Besides without brens they cant do anything other than wipe support weapons in late game. Would you rather have deadweight squad that does nothing in combat or you spend 90 mun to get pseudo infantry section with better HE nade and smoke/stealth In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Buff Shocks30 Jul 2018, 19:14 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Jul 2018, 18:40 PMSkysTheLimit "Elite" is little more than a descriptive word, and doesn't really mean much to the conversation. Penals are very strong, and unless you can't dodge the potato masher, they can go toe-toe with pgrens in a head to head fight. You say the schreck upgrade is part of what makes pgrens elite, but when they get it they can be forced off by much weaker infantry in exchange for being decent vs mediums. They're still a 4 man squad which can only be so good for AT. Shocks are "elite" but can't fight a single thing outside close range. Depending on the situation it can very easily be better to just get another penal squad, or go ppsh cons if you want cqc. Neither of those squads are "elite" (or are they) but can easily be better options. Thats exactly the point. Shocks are elite CQC squad utterly overshadowed by PPSh cons. Riflemen with BARs overshadowing Paratroopers and Rangers was not okay and both of these squads buffed as result. Shocks still remain useless because their cost in no way justfies their lack of gap closer/lack of mid-range DPS which results in them doing nothing but harming you by bleeding your MP rather than your enemy. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Buff Shocks30 Jul 2018, 17:05 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Jul 2018, 16:21 PMSander93 Because with the armor combined with heavy cover it would take absolutely forever to take them down (especially with unvetted/unupgraded grens or volks in the early game), which is fine right now because they won't do much damage in return. Giving them good mid range DPS would make them way too cost effective at stalling/defending I think. If shocks are in heavy cover and not moving out then anyone can just bleed them from 20+ range with LMGs/STG's. Besides I never suggested PPSh get same DPS as thompsons, just extended range, that alone wouldnt make shocks superior to LMG/STG's In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Buff Shocks30 Jul 2018, 15:09 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Jul 2018, 15:03 PMVipper If you want to continue this you have to argue it with Relic and creators of the guides of this site. From Soviet units guide: Penal Battalion "*Elite* anti-infantry squad." https://www.coh2.org/guides/2574/soviet-unit-guide 2013 guide... Lets see "Elite anti-infantry squad. Can be upgraded with a Flamethrower " Nope, you're not going to bait me into wasting even more time with this. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Buff Shocks30 Jul 2018, 14:54 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Jul 2018, 14:44 PMVipper You are actually doing exactly just that and you derailing this thread. So ask yourself and pls do not post here, "what is the difference between PG and Penal that make one an "elite" unit and the other not" I have explained what are the issues with buffing PPsh DPS in mid range and have little to add. You are of course entitled to your opinion. bye bye. This is last time I'm bothering respoding to you. Difference of between mainline infantry squads and elite squads are their weapons upgrades along with baseline performance. Penals perform equal to riflemen on single model basis. They also lack proper weapon upgrades and scale similary to other mainline infantries of other factions. This does not make them elite squad, merely more equal to compared to their peers in comparison to Conscripts. PanzerGrens have huge received accuracy bonuses and their default weaponry is far better than those of baseline infatries, they also have powerful weapon upgrade options and scale better into late game. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Buff Shocks30 Jul 2018, 14:39 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Jul 2018, 14:30 PMVipper Penal and PG are elite stock infantry since they are more expensive and better armed than mainline infantry. If you want to give a new meaning to the term "elite" you have to provide a definition. I have explained how I use the term and see little pointing in actually continuing this. What you are doing in this thread is being toxic for no good reason so pls stop trying to turn a balance issue into personal issue. So you basically admit you have no idea what you're talking about or whats the definition of an elite squad is? Heres a fact: PGrens and Stormtroopers are elite infantry squads of Wehr. Shocks and Guards are elite infantry squad of SU. No other elite units for eastern front factions exist. Also calling you out on constantly engaging in whataboutism is not toxicity. Unlike you I'm actually trying to contribute to thread, not derail it In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Buff Shocks30 Jul 2018, 14:19 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Jul 2018, 14:12 PMSander93 I think that this in combination with the armor would make them pretty OP in the early to mid game when there are only unvetted/unupgraded grens/volks around. How is this going to make them OP? Their CQC DPS will go down thanks to SVT's and midrange combat will still be more preferable for Volks than close combat with Shocks. Grens with G43 will actually do better against them at close range too In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Buff Shocks30 Jul 2018, 14:14 PM Get your facts straight: SU has only two elite infantry squads - Shocks and Guards. Penals are not elite and never were Rangers and Paratroopers also armed with mid-range rifles by default which makes similar to Riflemen, yet somehow you managed not to mention that. What you do in this thread is called "Whataboutism" and thats like 90% of your posts, rest are stawmans In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Buff Shocks30 Jul 2018, 14:01 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Jul 2018, 13:57 PMVipper If they start with SVT they are simply overlaping with Penals. Actually no, faction are completely different with different tech structures different strenght and weakness and different strategies. In addition Soviet as faction currently perform better than USF. Finally the strength of USF mainline infantry and the timing of elite, means that USF elite must be really really strong to be worth buying. (that is why I suggest moving USF elite to CP1 and adjusting cost performance). Can you stop strawmanning and derailing this threads topic? Dont compare Shocks to Penals, Penals are non-doctrinal, non-elite squad that is not designed for CQC. The whole point of this discussion how to buff Shocks, not your listen to your ideas why "we cant buff Shocks, they will OP" This kind of mentality made more than half of doctrinal Soviet roster a laughing stock (Hello KV-2, Shocks, Partisans et cetera) In: COH2 Balance