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I swear to god this game's biggest problem is MG abuse. |
Also, the sherman's regular rounds have roughly the same AI performance as the p4 (lower aoe, but also lower scatter). You've actually managed to act like the OPTION to switch to specialized anti infantry rounds is a downside.
Considering how much babysitting of USF units you have to do just to keep them alive it is a downside, especially since the HE isn't even that good. It's so inconsistent half the time it barely does any damage. |
As much as I'd like to complain about the .50 cal, it's the best Allied HMG
That's not saying much. It's not that hard to figure out why USF sucks so much when you've got inferior units that cost more. I've never seen any other RTS game that has done something like that. |
And a .50 will easily 1v1 an mg42 due to the faster setup time 
Except that's not what an MG is for. If you think about it, every single unit in the LT teir is over priced and does not preform for it's cost except the LT unit itself which you get for free. |
Panzer 4 vs HE sherman
LOL! Nope, Panzer 4 will 1v1 a Sherman M4A3 pretty easily and its shot is effective against both infantry and armor without having to manually switch between two different shots making it more versitile. It also enjoys better armor upgrades when vetted.
Try again. |
Again, they're not priced on the same rules. The HMG42 is priced relative to other Ostheer units, the .50 cal is priced relative to other USF units. The two factions have different teching structures.
If you're comparing OST to USF, you need to compare the whole faction.
Name 1, just 1 Ostheer unit that is inferior to its Allied counterpart and yet more expensive.
Besides, USF as a faction is a complete mess compared to OSTheer. This may have something to do with the fact they have inferior units that cost more. |
It's worse than an MG42 for what you want an MG to do, but it's still a very good MG.
Yeah, it's not an optimal deal, and getting it from tier0 the way OKW does after an initial tech up would be cool, but something something fair and balance.
It is a very good MG tho, 2nd best of the stock HMGs IMO, and by a relatively wide margin.
So here is the deal then. There is nothing wrong with Wehrmacht having a better MG than the .50 cal, there is even nothing wrong with the MG being in the LT tier. There is something wrong with a clearly inferior unit costing more and taking up more pop. This is the kind of crap with these balance patches that make no sense at all. |
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TO:
REs - 5 man sqaud 200 MP
Riflemen - 5 man sqaud 270 MP
T1 - Free grenade teching including Rifle grenades on Riflemen.
Bolster infantry upgrade for 35 fuel and 150 MP increasing sqaud sizes to 6 men for riflemen, REs, as well as CPT and LT.
Over all I think the #1 problem with USF are the overly expenisve MP costs for units that don't preform well at all. Units are cost too much for their preformance:
Rear Echeleons
Riflemen
M2 HMG .50 cal
M15 AAHT
M20 Scout Ca
Every single one of these units is extremely overpriced.
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The ability to build it in the first place.
Comparing the .50 cal and the MG42 directly doesn't work because they're not in the same faction: you'd never have to choose between them.
Units are priced relative to other units in the same faction, with the goal being build diversity.
If you want to compare USF and OST, you need to compare them as a whole. Individual unit comparisons break down because their circumstances aren't the same. A .50 cal fights different factions, comes out at a different timing and has different units supporting it.
The AP damage from the .50 cal isn't important because you do not buy MGs to fight vehicles but to supress blobs. Besides the AP ammo on the vetted MG42s is superior, it can kill almost any light vehicle in a single burst. So the MG42s has better anti-infantry, and better AP rounds, I cannot think of a single thing the .50 does better than the MG42 that actually matters yet its significantly more expenisve. I'm not sure why anyone would build this unit or why it should cost what it does. Its hard to say which 280 MP and 7 pop is more worthless, this or the cost for Riflemen. |
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I notice this MG is locked behind the LT tech tree and that it is significantly more expensive than the HMG42. So, question: what am I getting out of this unit that makes it better than the HMG42 since it's 1 more on the pop count and 20 MP more than its Wehrmacht counterpart? Anyone? Anyone? |
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