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Thread: [Winter Balance Update] USF Feedback28 Nov 2020, 20:35 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Nov 2020, 17:26 PMblvckdream I don't even know where to start. First of all, USF will get the snare after unlocking LT or CPT which costs a total of 35 fuel, and considering you have 20 fuel as a starting resource you can get LT or CPT as your 3rd unit if you want to. WHICH axis vehicle is the problem in this time frame? Kübelwagen? 222 and Flame HT comes after you get a officer and the 221 arrives at the same time if not later. Please elaborate the "very big early game problem" USF will have with the snare change. This change is a straight BUFF btw. Not sure why you would complain about a buff to the faction you main. Scott is OP for obvious reasons. It has 400 HP + smoke + range + can shoot over buildings which makes it next to uncounterable unless you make extremely risky dives or have Elefant ready to counter it on open maps where it cant hide behind shot blockers. Just a braindead unit as it currently is. Pak Howitzer is batshit OP compared to Leig or any other mortar and nerfing it is a no-brainer which basically anyone that plays more than one faction agrees about. Agreed with most of the post. Pak howi needs a nerf in the accuracy department, not distance damage. Scott should be 2 shot, not have autofire reduced since the autofire is even in the current patch mediocre at best, even vs blobs. It's really RNG dependent. You either induce rage in the enemy or you just sit there and watch how the shells do 0 dmg. Also, Scott can't fire over buildings in autofire, only in ground target and barrage. If you try press ctrl-A anywhere, the scott will try to completely close in on the target (literally stand next to it). Some bug or something. So it's micro intensive, like the whole faction. It's also a bit misleading to compare pak howi to leig. They are both "heavier mortars" but alongside leig is stuka. Leig is much more consistent at dishing out damage (while having lower damage profile). Reduce pak howi autofire accuracy, buff barrage and call it a day. It won't reliably hit without any input and barrages will be reliable. Also, Pershing needs some sort of survivability or ROF buff or something. Right now it's price does not fit the performance. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] General Discussion28 Nov 2020, 20:28 PM Considering the Panther. I would not call it OP. It didn't deserve a buff, certainly not in the accuracy department but doesn't deserve a nerf either. It's the best tank in the game next to the Comet (some would say T34-85 and for that price would probably be right). I mean, Panther can outmaneuver and is faster than any infantry while snared on engine damaged. High hp, high armour and decent amount of AI with the pintle MG. It won't destroy squads but if there are no AT options panther can easily scare away infantry. Hence the combined arms. USF has a bit of a problem by having a low pen AT gun but makes up for in zooks on any unit + Jackson (best TD). It all evens out I believe. OKW timings need to be revised in this patch. Played a couple of games now with OKW and USF. USF scott nerfed too much while OKW can snowball if not braindead, quite easily right now. Sad that the Pershing didn't receive any buffs whatsoever. Axis got buffed across the board (except some quasi nerfs on ostt), which is not necessarily a bad thing, some buffs were needed. USF didn't deserve some of the "reworks" (read nerfs). Don't play 1v1 so won't comment but scotts/paks are not that big of an issue to deal with in teamgames. Quality of life changes are brilliant though. Balance score: 6/10 QoL: 10/10 Optimization: Still waiting In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] USF Feedback27 Nov 2020, 18:25 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2020, 17:18 PMJibberJabberJobber Barrage goes from: 100 damage at radius 0 100 damage at radius 1 25 damage at radius 2 10 damage at radius 3 0 damage at radius 4 To: 80 damage at radius 0 54.4 damage at radius 1 (linearly calculated) 32 damage at radius 2 24 damage at radius 3 (linearly calculated) 16 damage at radius 4 So you lose damage between radius 0 and 1, but do more between 2 and 4. Together with the better stock scatter and vet 2 scatter bonus being moved to barrage, it should make it more reliable, but it's possible the barrage needs some more changes still. Maybe some extra shells or slightly higher midrange damage or further improving scatter or lower veterancy requirements (to help reach the vet 2 bonus). Again, the goal is not to nerf barrage, but to make it a reliable tool against support weapons and squads, not like the barrage in live that misses 3/4 times and hits 1/4 times (but kills a model). Thank you very much for this. I miscalculated. Played another game right now and however logical your post is, regarding the scalability, the scott, barrage and autofire feel more lackluster. The biggest nerf felt is the 50 range. Scenario: I had a big blob coming at me and had 2 scotts at the ready on hill 400. I used both of them to start firing on the incoming blob but the pak completely forced them off. I smoked it off but still. As the infantry wave advances, you need to keep a serious eye on them to not get snared. Basically, you need to get up close and personal and at the same time avoid any sort of sanres, shrecks and raketen/paks. It's pretty near impossible to force a blob off. Of course, you can't barrage an incoming blob so I only used barrage on MGs and paks. Again, if the enemy is paying attention, the long travel time + general low damage of the shells and both paks and MGs managed to get out with 3 models. If they didn't react at all, MG was brough down to 1-2 models very low HP and pak was decrewed. That is 2 scotts firing. Not one. Two scotts at all time firing at either incoming blobs or weapon teams. And of course, without the barrage, scott is near useless in teamgames. How the patch translates to 1v1s where there are 2/3 less units on the field. I don't know. All I know is that scott was and still is a lackluster teamgame unit. Pak howi is viable until the stuka comes at which point any pak play is a serious bleed. I've played so many games that the moment I hear werfer or stuka I immediately press 6 (control group for double or single pak howi) and send them to the base and still I lost both of them in 70% of cases. LeFH deletes them in 1-3 shots from counter barrage. All in all, as much as things make sense, this patch ain't intended for team games, AT ALL. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] USF Feedback27 Nov 2020, 16:39 PM I also played one game with it. The 50 autofire is really felt, especially on such a buggy unit. It took 2 barrages (1+1, 2 scotts) to kill an MG42. Doesn't feel any different than the current version. Buff barrage, 60 range autofire but nerf accuracy (scatter and all). 320 HP and perhaps lower fuel cost. Return to 100 dmg would be preferable on barrage. Don't know exactly what would change. Pak howi: Only change I would make on this unit, compared to now is nerf autofire accuracy (scatter, etc...) and buff barrage cooldown (no barrage accuracy buff needed). That's it. Not all those nerfs you and quasi buffs you introduced. Why would I go for pak howi when I can go for 2x mortar that can retreat and does not bleed as much. For advancing I would either go for calliope or just smoke from mortars and advance like that, rather than spend resources on a pak howi that would just do nothing except barrage every minute or so on positions than can always shift and void the barraage. Also, the person above has a point. Reduce armour on calliope so that the P4 can penetrate at all ranges and add 0.5-1s delay as to when the rockets start falling. You could then reverse the cooldown nerf since the calliope is RNG as it is due to it's low accuracy.. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] USF Feedback27 Nov 2020, 14:29 PM Making pak howi a barrage only piece would make it not fit inside any build. USF is already pop dependent with the usual 3 rifles into officer. God forbid you have doctrinal rangers which would be a shame to go unused. Why would anyone then make pak howi? To be a mediocre range heavy mortar whose function is to only barrage forward bunkers and heavy paks? Right now the scott is the pak howi on wheels for games where pak howi is too slow and too micro dependent (eg. constant fear of stuka). With these changes, scott is dead and pak howi resources are better spent on an extra ATG or some doctrinal unit like mortar HT. In the end, both pak howi and scott are terrible vs agile, aggressive players. Scott even more so. People actually compared scott to brummbar. I think that's enough said about the state of general mindlessness on these forums, and the balance team took the bait In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T-34 rework27 Nov 2020, 09:51 AM Just spice up the rest of the veterancy on T34. Add some bonuses. So that when the time comes, you're facing a KT or stuff like that, you have to think about sacrificing it or let it acquire more vet. Vet1 RAM is absolutely fine. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] USF Feedback27 Nov 2020, 09:30 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2020, 07:14 AMAarotron Baffling scott changes indeed. Not sure about damage drop especially. Riflemen snare change is welcome indeed. 50 cal nerfs are reasonable, taking note what a beast it still is. M20 buff is really nice, although how much it helps remains to be seen as lack of zook still makes it vulnerable. M20 is still useless unless you completely close the range for the MG. It can serve only as a mine dispenser and sniper discoverer. Even with these buffs it's meaningless, especially since the removal of zooks. .50 cal nerfs are reasonable. Scott def does not deserve a nerf. It took a big autofire nerf and got a slight barrage buff. Basically did a -10 on it and then a +2. It's still a hard minus eight. Pak howi also didn't deserve a nerf in terms of damage output. Why would I even use it now in teamgames where it can easily be wiped by stuka/werfer/lefh and in turn will never again scare away a squad because they know they can survive the first shot easily and reposition, instead of constantly repositioning. Scott, even less so now. Played a couple of games. Scott is useless. Pak howi is still usable but no longer takes 50% of a squads HP from on hit. I really don't know why they nerfed heavy USF mortars. I'm only speaking from a 3v3+ point of view. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] OKW Feedback27 Nov 2020, 01:14 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Nov 2020, 00:43 AMSpoof Once Allies get their mainline upgrades unvetted Volks are easily massacred, which is a big problem since they are needed to snare. Besides, you could make the same argument for Infantry Sections. They scale even better with sandbags. So you lost all your volk squads by the time rifles/IS get 2x bars/brens? You need to build fresh non vetted volks? Unvetted rifles also get massacred by obers and vetted upgraded volks. So don't quite see the problem. After this patch OKW will probably be a free win in 2v2s in capable hands with a bit of RNG on their side. Rushing flak to deny area and just massacre infantry forces the enemy to go for the ATG. At that point you avoid the ATGs and wait for the hetzer to close the game. A bit of smart play with the hetz (like flanking with it) so it doesn't get snared and you kill 1-2 ATGs with it and poof. I'm sure that NorthfireZ is not the last one to report that the timings of OKW are broken with the huge medic buff. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Stuka Dive-Bomber + Close the pocket27 Nov 2020, 01:07 AM Good players use Storms, not stuka dive bombs. Sneaky sneaky panzershrecks and poof, it's gone. Good arranged teams can pull it off, especially vs random teams. At that point, it's an I WIN button on some maps like Redball, which in itself is a moronically designed lane-y map. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] USF Feedback27 Nov 2020, 01:01 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Nov 2020, 22:51 PMCODGUY USF is generally in a good spot I don't have much to ask for myself except for the following: - Would like to see the Jackson get it's armor back, if not then at least lower its fuel cost back down to 140 fuel. - Give the Easy 8 WP rounds, and Rifle Company M1919, would be nice. - Maybe lower the cost slightly of a few overpriced units, namely Assault Engineers, Pathfinders, Rear Echeleons. - If they only make one change for USF though, that should be to fix the Pershing. It's a terrible heavy tank that doesn't do anything well. This is really the most important change they should make to USF IMHO. Jackson is fine. Easy8 needs buffing but that's obviously not in this patch. Rifle company does not need M1919. It needs a rework but again, not in this patch. Rear echelons are cheap as it is and can carry 2x zooks for late game scaring away Non-heavy tanks. The reinforce reduction is welcome. Agreed with the Pershing. Let's say the Pershing is normalized to one: so ROF is 1, survivability is 1, penetration is 1, agility is 1... etc. If tank X has slightly lower ROF then it's got a ROF value 0.75 and if the ROF is slightly better then it's 1.25 .... (increments of 0.25) etc. Tiger compared to Pershing: ROF: 1.5 Survivability: 1.5 Agility: 0.75 Ability: 1.5 AI power: 1 (MGs and abilities enhance this from 0.75) AI one shot potential: 0.75 AT power: 1.25 (going against lower armoured vehicles and better ROF improve that from 1) Accuracy: 0.75 From my point of view, Tiger, which is comparable to pershing in terms of cost (except that it's 2 measly pop cap higher), has much better stats and trade offs compared to Pershing. If anyone says "but Pershing has better AI". True, it does. But it does not have better AI by a factor 2 or 3, but by some couple of percent. Pershing's AI is 10% or so better than Tiger which does not justify having worse pretty much all aspects except for agility. Combined arms with a Tiger will always win vs combined arms with Pershing. Especially if you manage to keep rifles alive so that the population cap is the problem (if you go for pak howis and ATGs, which are poor vs Tiger unless you have the munitions, or rangers). Calliope nerf is also warranted. Pak howi... I don't know. Whereaboos screeched about it being OP but it's useless vs non-static opponents and super useless vs any "catch out of position" plays, which induces bleed. Don't know why you would nerf the near and mid distance by 50%. That's a lot. That's a big nerf. Blobs alert kind of nerf I think, time will tell. This is the biggest WTF: People screeched and compared the Scott to Brummbar, and the balance team gave in it seems. Which potential does M8 have? Pretty much every game I have played with USF, I always went for double Scott since only one is useless against anything but the biggest 6+ squad blobs. And since it won't fire over obstacles unless you direct it with ground fire..... It needs sight to autofire, so I don't quite see how scott was in any way overperforming for this kind of nerf. The fact that scott is really micro intensive because of that autofire thing, how did it exactly deserve a nerf? How does an arty vehicle, which, if behind any sort of sight blocker, is given a command to attack a squad, will not attack the squad but instead try to get as close as possible and then attack, deserve a nerf? You nerf the autofire by a huge margin, especially with that Panther range and buff barrage by a insignificant margin. So now, Scott sits in base until it can barrage with it's low damage shells that are only good vs heavy campers. Sturm, can you explain the reasoning behind that Scott nerf? Right now it's nothing but a glorified smoke dispenser. In: COH2 Balance