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They are long range snipers but they get one shotted by USF mortar like they are a sniper because they are 4 man. I would agree with a 5th man so that they won't get one shotted but reduce durability and dps to equal that of previous 4 man grens.

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Lunacy

I give up, there is no sense in talking with you.

Behold a revelation:
Penals are supposed to eat grens, they cost much more.
Tommies are supposed to eat grens, they cost much more.
Rifles are supposed to eat grens, they cost much more.

They all cost more but require less to reinforce. This doesn´t make sense, since they are all more powerful then grens.

Now, add an MG or sniper to the mix and you have a whole different situation.
Grens are SUPPOSED TO BE EATEN ALIFE IF UNSUPPORTED.

USF mortar makes mg play impossible, it comes too fast and fires faster and more accurate than the old ostheer turbo mortar. Then we have smoke from riflemen, heavy mortars etc. MG42 is countered by t1 USF like it is nothing. Add a lovely mortar pit in there with UKF, that can hit 70/80% of most 1v1 maps and guess what, mg42 useless.

240mp+60mun is being eaten alife by 280mp 120/140mun or 300mp 60mun is problem why again?

Sure, but then allow Grens the same pleassure of either a 5th men, or a double upgrade. This isn´t fair, neither is it balanced. You have to rely on grens, which you can´t in the late game vs penals, double bar riflemen and double bren tommies. Then we have the lunacy of grens costing the most to reinforce out of all the mainline infantry, but they get beaten by all of the above mentioned.

In case you've missed the memo for the last 2 years:

GRENS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK ALONE, THEY WILL FAIL IF YOU SPAM GRENS ALONE.
Grens are supposed to be used with support of HMGs and Snipers, BECAUSE THEY ARE INTENDED TO BE COUNTERED BY MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE UNITS.

Using grens without combined arms is about as smart and efficient as is using RETs exclusively to repair USF vehicles-it just won't work, because its not supposed to be done this way.

That still isn't any excuse to buff what doesn't need buffs.

Ah yes I know, but to that I say to you: USF super mortar/ UKF mortar pit with insane range and free immortaility shield/ Soviet heavy mortar that

USF mortar and smoke make MG42s useless now. Mortar pit destroys static MG42 play. Good luck having to move your support weapons constantly, not to mention them dying to one volley of a mortar pit or 2 volleys of a USF mortar.

Who would have guessed, Katikof doesn't want Ostheer to have a 5 men gren squad.

We know! Thanks for the specific information! Post this at Relic's official forums too man!