yeah something seems to have broken the mod, it's not working anymore for me either since i published it. sorry about that.
anyway, while i'm sure that multiple rockets fired into the first scatter box scatter randomly as they should, your video seems to indicate the very first rocket fired may behave somewhat oddly. honestly i still think it does behave as it should and you've just been incredibly unlucky (or lucky?) in your tests.
that being said, i'd also not be too surprised if there is indeed some weird glitch in how the scatter of the first shell in a creeping barrage is calculated, as that would not be the only instance where the description in the editor does not really match the actual in-game implementation (for example the real length of the scatter box is 48 m instead of the 40 m defined in the editor).
to either debunk or confirm this once and for all, the easiest would probably be to mod the width of the scatter box (currently 8 m) to be very large (maybe 10x of that), so it is easier to discern visually if the rocket always hits the center or scatters normally.
i'll give this a try later...
Ok went back into the editor and made a small mod to test the creeping barrage scatter again. And I'm quite confident to say that it does work as intended, i.e. first and last rockets scatter in the same way as all the other rockets in the middle do.
You can test it out yourself if you're so inclined via this small mod:
All it does is increase the number of rockets fired into the first and last box (the ones with the X in your pic) to 100 and remove the explosion/crater effects in order to make it easier to see where exactly the rockets impact.
I couldn't test it on your mode, as the missiles didn't appear to be fully displayed.
about the last rocket, I was wrong, it has a good spread, but here is the first one.
then it looks like it is indeed working as intended.
from what i tested in the live version a while ago, the indicator and the scatter box should align roughly like this:
so every rocket falls into a separate square rougly 3 chevrons wide and as you showed already in your image, no rocket will land in the area around the first 3 chevrons.
i guess the indicator could be shortened at the beginning to better match the scatter pattern, but i think it is already quite accurate otherwise?
To be fair, this is a problem of the indicator and can be changed easy. Indicators arn't generated by weapon-stats, they are created by an independently overlay.
Edit: Same for Stumtiger, the indicator doesn't fit shell's
trajectory (rocket ^^) That could be fixed by overshooting the indicator... I don't know why they don't fix it like that.
projectiles that fly to the center sometimes fall next to each other (randomly), but the first and last always fall at these points(if there is a spread, then it is not visible)
and also, I tried firing in the patch, and the projectile fell into the area painted over at the end(if fired at close range )
Adding scatter would make the barrage harder to dodge though. Seems like a double edged sword.
it is better to do this at random than when the projectile hits exactly where the shot was indicated. Since this makes calculations very vulnerable, for example, you provoke the calculation to decompose and at the same time make a precise salvo, and in most cases it is wiped. Also, there are calculations that take a long time to collect, for example, 120 mortar. Almost 100% of the time, he won't be able to dodge
It is better to be a random, as well as with other units. (this also applies to brummbar)
First, shells do not fall on the entire designated area, but only from the initial 3rd strip, and the last 3rd strip(at least, you can make the shells fly along the entire length of the designation areas), and secondly, the first and last projectile always hit, almost in one place(it may be worth making these shells as random as the rest of the MLRS)
Willy Pete: @Rosbone Ahh I missed that memo. I still think its a bad decision though. Adds frustration for players and isnt gonna make them that much money Last Thursday, 15:46 PM
Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that. Last Thursday, 09:34 AM
Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals. Last Thursday, 09:32 AM
Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point. Last Thursday, 09:30 AM
Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy Last Thursday, 04:31 AM
Soheil: Coh2 still broken server ? Last Tuesday, 18:27 PM
Rosbone: Congrats to Relic. Looks like Coh3 has finally usurped Coh2 s the popular Coh. You smell terrific. . 24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance 22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
Willy Pete: @Nickbn you didn't ask a question, and this is a chat box... 20 Mar 2025, 13:11 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone it's incredibly rude to speak on someone elses behalf, especially when a question is directly adressed to them. I understand your passion for the subject at hand but I want to hear from him. 20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
Rosbone: @Nickbn No, I am just saying people should not be using any Relic owned forum since they have proven they ban anyone who says true things about Coh3. 18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone do you speak on his behalf? I didn't know. In that case keep us updated please. 18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
Rosbone: #RelicModdedEchoChamber 16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Rosbone: @Nickbn True except, the only people on the Relic Discord/Reddit/Steam are brain washed monkey zealots. They wont even understand what @adamírcz is talking about. Anyone else is banned. 16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Nickbn: @adamírcz might be a better idea to voice this to relic directly than to voice it here, in a shoutbox of a nearly deade fansite #justsaying... 16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
aerafield: @adamírcz aren't the first two disconnects free every day? 14 Mar 2025, 19:26 PM
Rosbone: It is so unlike Relic to punish its fans and community. 14 Mar 2025, 12:07 PM
adamírcz: So, I just got a leaver penalty without even getting onto the loading screen because of the game disconnecting, bravo Relic 14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product. 13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have. 13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
Rosbone: Just making mistake after mistake after mistake. 13 Mar 2025, 19:57 PM
Rosbone: It is clear they crapped out an unfinished game. And are now barely supporting it as they make new smaller games. Coh3 is stillborn. It will be meh for at least another 2-4 years. Meaning they killed the whole franchise instead of growing it. 13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
Rosbone: For a thing they could fix in minutes. Literally minutes. 13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: If I did play coh3 and was mainly a skirmish player, I would be pissed and probably stop playing. And it has been like this since release. Why? I would not tell my friends to buy a game I am not even playing. Lost sales and angered users. 13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: I am just saddened how Relic keeps hurting themselves by not fixing 5 minute things like menus. Why anger users with stuff that could be fixed in minutes??? 13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM
Rosbone: I was wondering why people think I was raging. I think it was when I said "because coh3 sucks so bad". That was not my opinion. Just a general feel from top players/streamers. I dont play Coh3 and have NO opinion of it. 13 Mar 2025, 19:48 PM
OKSpitfire: You can rage as often as you like btw, you usually manage to make it pretty funny. 12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM
Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points. 12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting. 12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM
Rosbone: @theekvn I dont hate Coh3 or Relic. I just dont understand how you work on Coh3 for like 7 years and the menu system is worse than if a Programming 101 student made it. Feel free to explain it to me. 12 Mar 2025, 04:07 AM
theekvn: + 33% dmg rear hit was best deal ever. 12 Mar 2025, 04:00 AM
theekvn: KT just need fuel debuf from 15% to 50%, Ele arc of fire- aim time improve and they are good to go 12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM
theekvn: and please Rosbone,I know you hate Coh3 to the bone due to your drama with relic, Still, Can you give a proper point of view instead of raging ?. 12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM
theekvn: you rather go 76 to unity Whizbang 2.0 or go home. 12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: also US tier 4 is 145f and Sherman pen 140 nerf is too much. 12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: Whizbang lock behind CP, meanwhile stuka is techtree progress 12 Mar 2025, 03:51 AM
KoRneY: @aerafield It's possible that it is underpriced for what it is capable of now, no need to go full retard and take it immediately as a massive problem. It costs 60 more MP than a pz.3 and in 2v2 the barrage can be quite strong. 07 Mar 2025, 19:14 PM
OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back.... 06 Mar 2025, 16:35 PM
aerafield: USF already is by far the shittiest faction in terms of countering blobbing and turtling, now they supposedly have one overtuned tool locked behind a BG and it's immediately a massive problem? 06 Mar 2025, 13:33 PM
Lady Xenarra: I think post-2.0 Whizbang buffs, the price is too low esp since the Stuka got nerfed in cost too. Speaking of which, how exactly is one supposed to successfully dive this Sherman in disguise? Med tank spam running into SSFs? 06 Mar 2025, 12:13 PM
OKSpitfire: A powerful, doctrinal unit that outperforms stock stuff? Colour me shocked! 06 Mar 2025, 10:49 AM
Willy Pete: Cool you wanna lose your stock lategame arty too then? 06 Mar 2025, 03:20 AM
Lady Xenarra: WTB Whizzbang for DAK instead of Stuka, 5 fuel cheape, 60MP more expensive and next to impossible to dive. 05 Mar 2025, 20:27 PM
Rosbone: It is also hard to expect Relic to help Coh2 when they cant even make working menus in Coh3 yet, 2 years after release and at full price+ for DLCs. Thats like asking a fish to do calculus. 04 Mar 2025, 02:58 AM
Rosbone: But this last patch has made good progress for grabbing players. All we can hope is Coh3 gets to Coh2s quality level before everyone abandons the franchise. Its Relic so they will completely f*%k it up as usual. But its a hope/cope. 04 Mar 2025, 02:55 AM
Rosbone: Relic wants Coh2 to fail so players will migrate to Coh3. It is hard to blame them since Coh3 sucks so bad. It needs all the help it can get. 04 Mar 2025, 02:53 AM
Soheil: Coh2 is dead , full of map hackers , and lelic knows that but ... 04 Mar 2025, 01:26 AM
aerafield: Oh how I missed the weird spam bots, welcome back 03 Mar 2025, 13:05 PM
situsgbo777: Platform game online terpercaya dengan berbagai pilihan permainan seru dan peluang menang besar. Nikmati pengalaman bermain terbaik hanya di GBO777 03 Mar 2025, 06:48 AM
OKSpitfire: @aerafield that does sound familiar 02 Mar 2025, 09:06 AM
Lady Xenarra: Ah, the gren faust-replacing-rifles bug/exploit. 01 Mar 2025, 18:24 PM
aerafield: CoH3 high elo is truly the dumbest CoH experience that ever existed 01 Mar 2025, 17:25 PM
aerafield: @OKSpitfire tbh I find it quite challenging to get the Pershing in time, having to suffer through the CoH3 tickrate and this endless bullshit meta of massive blobs going back and forth to the forward heal truck 01 Mar 2025, 17:24 PM
OKSpitfire: Well... going to be seeing the Pershing a lot for a little while, that thing is a monster. 01 Mar 2025, 11:44 AM
NigelBallsworth: axis stuff is getting more meme by the second 28 Feb 2025, 23:32 PM
aerafield: Cloaked instapin MGs at 0cp. I wanna see no more crying about the Dingo while that shit is in the game 28 Feb 2025, 20:38 PM
Willy Pete: And only on annihilation, and I have to let the AI live long enough... 28 Feb 2025, 02:04 AM
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